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#4516696 - 04/16/20 03:02 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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I've done a third sub-theater this afternoon. I called it Aisne River theater.

Welcome to Soissons

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Etangs in the Aisne valley

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Craonnelle and Craonne on the deadly Chemin des Dames

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#4516713 - 04/16/20 04:36 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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Fourth one done as well. This is the Velse River theater.

Welcome to Reims

The map needs more labels...

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Shot taken flying over Nogent l'Abbesse. You can see Reims in the distance. Fort de la Pompelle might be on the left.

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Heading north. The village underneath is probably Bourgogne and the one in a forest is Brimont. There was a Fort there.

This was over this area where Fonck spotted two Albatrosses led by Hptm Eberhard von Seel (CO Jasta 17) on the morning of 12 June 1917. Von Seel felt in flames as the Frenchman 6th confirmed victory. The other pilot was probably Utffz Hermann Wilhelm who died this day, to be added to the long list of Fonck's probable victories.

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#4516717 - 04/16/20 04:44 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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I am really impressed with the detailed look of the maps Xjouve. Very nice work!


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#4516825 - 04/17/20 09:41 AM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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Thanks Robert! Greatly appreciated.

Today I've added labels to offer better coverage of areas where too few labels where displayed. I've also increased the contrast of roads, as even if they are not all there ingame, they allow better identification of the location of urban areas.

PS: CFS3/WOFF roads are most likely some the main ones on my maps

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#4516826 - 04/17/20 09:45 AM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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Meuse River Theater done.

Welcome to Verdun

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Bras and Charny-sur-Meuse underneath, Verdun in the distance


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Some observations

- WOFF frontline is increasingly too south after Aubérive in the vicinity of Reims (the front line is about 15km too south in the Verdun area, same in the St Mihiel area)
- With more variations of elevations and more rivers than what I had previously, it is more and more evident that the terrain has to be relocated (not much, but it has too)
- With more woods than what I had previously, I had to rework on the landclass (LCF) file
- With more rivers than what we had originally, it has become clear that the water class file (cfs3h2o.dds) has to be flipped back to normal position. I'll post about that, as this is funny. smile


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#4516839 - 04/17/20 10:54 AM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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So, as I was testing the Meuse River Theater, look at what I found. It seems like the waterclass file, cfs3h2o.dds, which is flipped by default in CFS3, has to be flipped back to normal position.

I had Gecko's 512 mod installed, but it is the same with default texture.

Look at the colors of water CT

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The Meuse river area, or Verdun area if it you prefer, might very well corresponds to this area on the whole theater, isn't it? (in red)

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So I flipped Gecko's cfs3h2o.dds back to normal position and tested ingame. The color of water was then uniform, with a nice dark green. smile

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#4517935 - 04/24/20 04:44 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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I had a bit of fun today flying over the Vosges. I used v2.01 of my terrain mod and a test version of the rivers mod for Haut Rhin area.

I'll certainly remove many streams as they stand out too much and TBH, the water file is so big, that I got crashes and terrible hits on FPS.

Lac de Kruth-Wildenstein underneath

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Lac Blanc and Lac Noir, heading to Collet du Linge from the Tête des Faux (underneath). This is the EXACT location of the frontline

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The unfamous Collet du Linge on the right.

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I know the place very well for having visited the battlefied several times. I had goose bumps when seeing this on my screen. Between 20 July 1915 and 16 October 1915, 17,000 soldiers died here.

Two photos I took there.

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#4521288 - 05/18/20 12:03 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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I'm making progress on the global_layer work that will accompagny landcovers. The work to do is definitely not small.

Actually, when using stock landcover, you don't need to be very precise with your locations. It doesn't really matter if a town sound is 5 km too far on the E or something. But with improved landcover, it is wierd. Same for frontlines, especially when you use a precise map in addition to the new landcover. Well, all is linked.

Here you can see the stock sound location for the city of Poperinghe. It is not even close to Poperinghe, but it is E of Ypres.

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EDIT: finished to relocate town sounds (global layer of 1914, but I believe these are used in all periods).

For those of you modding global layer, here are my changes if you want to use them. Very few items have been left unchanged. I've replaced Messines by Vouziers as Mesen (belgian name) was already included.

Code
town,british,sound,N47.6245,E4.33685,0,,Montbard,townbritishsound A499,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N47.85971,E5.57375,0,,Chatillion sur seine,townbritishsound A500,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N47.62375,E6.15681,0,,Vesoul,townbritishsound A501,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N47.06713,E5.61534,0,,Chassigny,townbritishsound A502,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.69062,E6.1817,0,,Nancy,townbritishsound A503,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.11058,E5.13997,0.00,,Chaumont,townbritishsound A504,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.67509,E5.8909,0,,Toul,townbritishsound A505,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.16088,E5.38502,0,,Verdun,townbritishsound A506,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.96129,E4.36295,0.00,,Chalons,townbritishsound A507,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.04529,E3.95405,0,,Epernay,townbritishsound A508,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.04198,E3.40405,0,,Chateau Thierry,townbritishsound A509,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N51.03557,E2.37442,0,,Dunkerque,townbritishsound A510,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.95583,E1.85566,0,,Calais,townbritishsound A511,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.72472,E1.60229,0,,Boulogne,townbritishsound A512,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.92492,E1.07906,0.00,,Dieppe,townbritishsound A513,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.03607,E2.05513,0,,Cergy,townbritishsound A514,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.43107,E2.08328,0,,Beauvais,townbritishsound A515,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.56002,E3.29796,0,,Provins,townbritishsound A516,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48*51'19.0295,E2*21'55.4898,0,,Paris,townbritishsound A517,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.37969,E3.32405,0,,Soissons,townbritishsound A518,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.41834,E2.82623,0,,Compiegne,townbritishsound A519,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.19427,E2.46231,0.00,,Chantilly,townbritishsound A520,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.002,E2.62011,0.00,,Albert,townbritishsound A521,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.92736,E2.75757,0,,Cappy,townbritishsound A523,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.93951,E2.71809,0,,Bray,townbritishsound A524,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.90823,E2.51055,0,,Corbie,townbritishsound A525,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.89596,E2.29443,0,,Amiens,townbritishsound A526,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.10539,E1.83609,0.00,,Abbeville,townbritishsound A527,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.37366,E2.03771,0,,Hesdin,townbritishsound A528,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.08386,E2.65689,0.00,,Beaumont Hamel,townbritishsound A529,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.15909,E2.34146,0,,Doullens,townbritishsound A530,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.28956,E2.77988,0,,Arras,townbritishsound A531,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.35128,E2.69343,0,,Mont St Eloi,townbritishsound A532,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N51.12992,E2.75242,0,,Nieeuwpoort,townbritishsound A533,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.85516,E2.7253,0,,Poperinghe,townbritishsound A534,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.53176,E2.63981,0,,Bethune,townbritishsound A536,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.42296,E2.1698,0,,Blangy-sur-Ternoise,townbritishsound A537,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.70624,E2.12036,0,,Lumbres,townbritishsound A538,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.75014,E2.25245,0,,St Omer,townbritishsound A539,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.59228,E6.49155,0,,Luneville,townbritishsound A540,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.28582,E7.94902,0,,St Die,townbritishsound A541,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.17295,E6.44829,0,,Epinal,townbritishsound A542,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N47.64041,E6.86131,0,,Belfort,townbritishsound A543,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N47.51048,E6.79848,0,,Montbeliard,townbritishsound A544,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.69806,E2.79001,0,,Roye,townbritishsound A545,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.34621,E6.63583,0,,Rambervillers,townbritishsound A546,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.87284,E2.71397,0,,Lagny,townbritishsound A547,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.21367,E5.63513,0,,Etain,townbritishsound A548,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.83975,E4.34526,0,,Cernon,townbritishsound A549,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.94934,E3.1263,0,,La Ferte sous Jouarre,townbritishsound A550,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.04619,E3.39907,0,,Chateau-Thierry,townbritishsound A551,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.50537,E2.43502,0,,Saint-Just-en-Chausee,townbritishsound A552,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.25369,E3.0942,0,,Villers-Cotterets,townbritishsound A553,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N48.80144,E2.13135,0,,Versailles,townbritishsound A554,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.73885,E2.73285,0,,Bailleul,townbritishsound A555,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.64162,E2.63878,0,,Merville,townbritishsound A556,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.05907,E2.60805,0,,Englebelmer,townbritishsound A557,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50*17'0.9723,E2*45'36.6743,0,,Saint Nicolas,townbritishsound A558,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N49.96591,E1.94304,0,,Airaines,townbritishsound A559,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,british,sound,N50.88593,E1.66288,0,,Wissant,townbritishsound A560,,,Britain,,WW1,usa,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.73667,E2.73045,0.00,,Bailleul,towngermansound A535,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.99853,E2.71611,0.00,,Fricourt,towngermansound A522,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50*43'44.6721,E3*2'59.5772,0.00,,Bizet,towngermansound A335,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.687,E3.88237,0.00,,Armanteires,towngermansound A335,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.04016,E2.72598,0.00,,Pozieres,towngermansound A335,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.42952,E2.82692,0,,Lens,towngermansound A561,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.35506,E4.64104,0.00,,Brecht,towngermansound A562,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49*42'47.5642,E6*47'16.5317,0,,Nohfelden,towngermansound A563,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50*33'26.8596,E5*34'34.6232,0,,Flamello Grande,towngermansound A564,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.63378,E5.57899,0,,Liege,towngermansound A565,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.77577,E6.08368,0,,Aachen,towngermansound A566,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.96318,E5.49385,0,,Genk,towngermansound A567,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.9316,E5.327,0,,Hasselt,towngermansound A568,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51*3'13.8468,E5*21'26.6492,0,,Beringen,towngermansound A569,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.80789,E4.93423,0.00,,Tienen,towngermansound A570,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.47149,E4.89029,0,,Namur,towngermansound A571,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.70361,E4.93423,0,,Sedan,towngermansound A572,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.76086,E4.72,0,,Charleville,towngermansound A573,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.28056,E3.97533,0,,Maubeuge,towngermansound A574,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.40983,E4.4426,0,,Charleroi,towngermansound A575,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.47608,E4.18579,0,,La Louviere,towngermansound A576,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.45357,E3.95096,0,,Mons,towngermansound A577,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.63596,E3.77106,0.00,,Ath,towngermansound A578,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.84584,E4.35299,0,,Brussels,towngermansound A579,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.73906,E4.23248,0,,Halle,towngermansound A580,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51*15'53.6837,E4*36'53.1990,0,,Schoien,towngermansound A581,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.21742,E4.4038,0.00,,Antwerp,towngermansound A582,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.93939,E4.03748,0.00,,Aalst,towngermansound A583,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.33168,E3.82805,0.00,,Terneuzen,towngermansound A584,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.03341,E2.86503,0,,Diksmuide,towngermansound A585,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.20989,E3.22174,0,,Brugge,towngermansound A586,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.05434,E3.72437,0,,Ghent,towngermansound A587,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.99906,E3.32886,0,,Thielt,towngermansound A588,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N47.75225,E7.34573,0,,Mulhouse,towngermansound A589,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N48.03494,E7.58125,0,,Breisach am Rhein,towngermansound A590,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.00365,E8.3963,0,,Karlsruhe,towngermansound A591,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49*10'19.3633,E7*9'5.2222,0,,Freyming,towngermansound A592,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49*12'11.8653,E7*0'16.4668,0,,Creutzwald,towngermansound A593,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.11973,E6.17157,0,,Metz,towngermansound A594,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.35745,E6.16693,0.00,,Thionville,towngermansound A595,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.52053,E5.76027,0,,Longwy,towngermansound A596,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.61204,E6.12968,0,,Luxembourg,towngermansound A597,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.63857,E5.88644,0,,Arlon,towngermansound A598,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.50894,E4.36604,0.00,,Rethel,towngermansound A599,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.57132,E3.89294,0,,Sissonne,towngermansound A600,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.5643,E3.62326,0,,Laon,towngermansound A601,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.84695,E3.28723,0,,St Quentin,towngermansound A602,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.06056,E2.74778,0.00,,Courcellete,towngermansound A603,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.10363,E2.84855,0.00,,Bapaume,towngermansound A604,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.93211,E2.93335,0.00,,Peronne,towngermansound A605,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.27124,E2.89198,0.00,,Monchy,towngermansound A606,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.10649,E3.54103,0,,Le Cateau,towngermansound A607,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.17536,E3.23547,0.00,,Cambrai,towngermansound A608,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.57688,E3.68591,0,,Athies,towngermansound A609,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.61462,E3.01712,0,,Loos,towngermansound A610,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.35422,E2.80083,0,,Thelus,towngermansound A611,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.3747,E2.81027,0,,Vimy,towngermansound A612,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.34809,E2.89146,0.00,,Oppy,towngermansound A613,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.32672,E2.98365,0,,Vitry,towngermansound A614,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.34721,E3.20303,0,,Masny,towngermansound A615,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.32683,E3.39478,0.00,,Denain,towngermansound A616,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.35773,E3.52112,0,,Valenciennes,towngermansound A617,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.60503,E3.38928,0,,Tournai,towngermansound A618,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.82784,E3.26534,0,,Kortrijk,towngermansound A619,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.79671,E3.12132,0,,Menen,towngermansound A620,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.69254,E3.17711,0,,Roubaix,towngermansound A621,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.6303,E3.0566,0,,Lille,towngermansound A622,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.76361,E2.89885,0.00,,Messines,towngermansound A623,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.72662,E2.87988,0,,Ploegsteert,towngermansound A624,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.84996,E2.88563,0.00,,Ypres,towngermansound A625,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.39623,E4.70284,0,,Vouziers,towngermansound A626,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.88896,E2.9361,0.00,,St Julien,towngermansound A627,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.9474,E3.12424,0,,Roulers,towngermansound A628,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.14145,E3.13763,0,,Zedelgem,towngermansound A630,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N48.98179,E5.70774,0,,Vigneulles les Hattonchatel,towngermansound A631,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N48.93445,E6.03973,0,,Pont a Mousson,towngermansound A632,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.50515,E5.97244,0,,Esch sur Alzette,towngermansound A633,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.52075,E5.3627,0,,Montmedy,towngermansound A634,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.5339,E5.17353,0,,Martincourt,towngermansound A635,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.89995,E3.02124,0,,Passchendaele,towngermansound A636,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N51.21635,E2.92854,0,,Oostende,towngermansound A637,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.66818,E2.97249,0,,Perenchies,towngermansound A638,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.49356,E2.95841,0,,Carvin,towngermansound A639,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N50.40152,E2.86846,0,,Mericourt,towngermansound A640,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.59091,E3.65707,0,,Chambry,towngermansound A643,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N49.34951,E4.21841,0,,Warmeriville,towngermansound A644,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N48.82156,E6.51077,0,,Chateau Sallins,towngermansound A645,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,
town,german,sound,N48.07991,E7.35809,0,,Colmar,towngermansound A646,,,Germany,,WW1,germany,,,,,,

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#4521308 - 05/18/20 01:43 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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My locations for forts all along the frontline (most of them are there; it actually includes also few smaller constructions called 'batteries' or 'ouvrages')

I'm using WOFF Douaumont object, which is good even if we could imagine having many different ones to better reflects reality. Maybe an update could be done with Lou's great forts. smile

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Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.59428,E6.65862,300.00,316,Luneville Fort de Manonviller,Verdun Fort de Manonviller,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Vaux,N49.200460,E5.470333,40.00,342,Verdun Fort de Vaux,Verdun Fort de Vaux,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,, 
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.216968,E5.438712,340.00,393,Verdun Fort de Douaumont,Verdun Fort de Douaumont,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.187397,E5.438844,350.00,345,Verdun Fort de Souville,Verdun Fort de Souville,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.181342,E5.463145,90.00,288,Verdun Fort de Tavannes,Verdun Fort de Tavannes,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.167374,E5.484478,120.00,334,Verdun Fort de Moulainville,Verdun Fort de Moulainville,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.124904,E5.480744,110.00,386,Verdun Fort du Rozellier,Verdun Fort du Rozellier,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.115446,E5.433242,140.00,335,Verdun Fort d'Haudainville,Verdun Fort d'Haudainville,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.147821,E5.435062,135.00,271,Verdun Fort de Belrupt,Verdun Fort de Belrupt,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.180723,E5.383971,10.00,305,Verdun Fort de Belleville,Verdun Fort de Belleville,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.174198,E5.421455,145.00,316,Verdun Fort de St-Michel,Verdun Fort de St-Michel,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.155779,E5.329766,260.00,274,Verdun Fort de la Chaume,Verdun Fort de la Chaume,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.137729,E5.337420,230.00,290,Verdun Fort de Regret,Verdun Fort de Regret,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.153250,E5.309868,260.00,307,Verdun Fort des Sartelles,Verdun Fort des Sartelles,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.204095,E5.341786,350.00,263,Verdun Fort de Vacherauville,Verdun Fort de Vacherauville,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.195860,E5.314622,310.00,295,Verdun Fort de Marre,Verdun Fort de Marre,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.192179,E5.299080,310.00,306,Verdun Fort de Bois Bourrus,Verdun Fort de Bois Bourrus,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.178249,E5.302956,230.00,295,Verdun Fort de Choisel,Verdun Fort de Choisel,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.112705,E5.378993,185.00,286,Verdun Fort de Dugny,Verdun Fort de Dugny,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.112009,E5.343201,230.00,319,Verdun Fort de Landrecourt,Verdun Fort de Landrecourt,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.056870,E5.447901,265.00,343,Verdun Fort de Genicourt,Verdun Fort de Genicourt,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.830819,E5.622392,250.00,265,St-Mihiel Fort de Liouville,St-Mihiel Fort de Liouville,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.789214,E5.670636,190.00,388,St-Mihiel Fort de Gironville,St-Mihiel Fort de Gironville,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.775338,E5.687101,105.00,343,St-Mihiel Fort de Jouy-sous-les-Cotes,St-Mihiel Fort de Jouy-sous-les-Cotes,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.876367,E5.539707,350.00,376,St-Mihiel Fort du Camp des Romains,St-Mihiel Fort du Camp des Romains,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.988454,E5.488526,60.00,244,St-Mihiel Fort de Troyon,St-Mihiel Fort de Troyon,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.911971,E5.498438,50.00,307,St-Mihiel Fort des Paroches,St-Mihiel Fort des Paroches,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.191776,E4.059683,100.00,121,Reims Fort de Montbre,Reims Fort de Montbre,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.215999,E4.129145,130.00,121,Reims Fort de la Pompelle,Reims Fort de la Pompelle,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.245679,E4.154704,110.00,182,Reims Fort de Nogent-l'Abbesse,Reims Fort de Nogent-l'Abbesse,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.281052,E4.135394,210.00,174,Reims Fort de Witry-les-Reims,Reims Fort de Witry-les-Reims,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.341975,E4.017121,5.00,174,Reims Fort de Brimont,Reims Fort de Brimont,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.323815,E4.106170,220.00,109,Reims Fort de Fresnes,Reims Fort de Fresnes,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.307533,E3.932966,100.00,197,Reims Fort de St-Thierry,Reims Fort de St-Thierry,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.307533,E3.932966,260.00,209,Reims Reduit de Chenay,Reims Reduit de Chenay,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.257172,E4.146000,60.00,263,Reims Ouvrage de la Vigie-de-Berru,Reims Ouvrage de la Vigie-de-Berru,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.338529,E4.000731,270.00,110,Reims Batterie de Loivre,Reims Batterie de Loivre,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.341554,E4.034502,100.00,130,Reims Batterie du Cran-de-Brimont,Reims Batterie du Cran-de-Brimont,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.461182,E3.522654,280.00,137,Soissons Fort de la Malmaison,Soissons Fort de la Malmaison,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.401124,E3.455283,130.00,166,Soissons Fort de Conde,Soissons Fort de Conde,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N50.555740,E3.053348,185.00,48,Lille Fort de Seclin,Lille Fort de Seclin,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N50.581133,E3.159317,100.00,44,Lille Fort de Sainghin,Lille Fort de Sainghin,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N50.693072,E3.016932,350.00,24,Lille Fort du Vert-Galant,Lille Fort du Vert-Galant,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N50.633289,E2.957149,260.00,48,Lille Fort d'Englos,Lille Fort d'Englos,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N50.644776,E3.120087,60.00,48,Lille Fort de Mons-en-Bareuil,Lille Fort de Mons-en-Baroeuil,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N50.692234,E3.086732,30.00,39,Lille Fort de Bondues,Lille Fort de Bondues,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N50.659829,E2.957307,280.00,20,Lille Fort de Premesque,Lille Fort de Premesque,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.542327,E3.538106,340.00,189,Laon Fort de Laniscourt,Laon Fort de Laniscourt,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.498414,E3.673168,100.00,199,Laon Fort de Montberault,Laon Fort de Montberault,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.531132,E3.684043,100.00,158,Laon Batterie des Bruyeres,Laon Batterie des Bruyeres,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.691823,E3.314475,310.00,87,La Fere Fort de Liez,La Fere Fort de Liez,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.710728,E3.418297,30.00,112,La Fere Fort Mayot,La Fere Fort Mayot,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N49.717941,E3.339787,340.00,100,La Fere Fort de Vendeuil,La Fere Fort de Vendeuil,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N51.053376,E2.446734,75.00,17,Dunkerque Fort des Dunes,Dunkerque Fort des Dunes,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N51.05958,E2.44991,350.00,6,Dunkerque Batterie de Zuydcoote,Dunkerque Batterie de Zuydcoote,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N48.014811,E6.575201,70.00,562,Belfort Fort du Parmont,Belfort Fort du Parmont,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.917704,E6.639478,160.00,768,Belfort Fort de Rupt,Belfort Fort de Rupt,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.730744,E6.813101,185.00,562,Belfort Fort de Giromagny,Belfort Fort de Giromagny,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.859171,E6.743498,190.00,687,Belfort Fort de Chateau-Lambert,Belfort Fort de Chateau-Lambert,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.832128,E6.791846,55.00,1141,Belfort Fort de Servance,Belfort Fort de Servance,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.680462,E6.899718,0.00,511,Belfort Fort de Roppe,Belfort Fort de Roppe,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.630249,E6.877871,150.00,429,Belfort Fort des Hautes-Perches,Belfort Fort des Hautes-Perches,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.626095,E6.868687,350.00,414,Belfort Fort des Basses-Perches,Belfort Fort des Basses-Perches,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.600505,E6.908308,100.00,384,Belfort Fort de Vezelois,Belfort Fort de Vezelois,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,
Verdun,Fort,Douaumont,N47.574412,E6.843238,140.00,427,Belfort Fort du Bois d'Oye,Belfort Fort du Bois d'Oye,OBD,,France,,,,,,,,,

Last edited by xjouve; 05/18/20 01:50 PM.

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#4521416 - 05/19/20 10:28 AM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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I'm currently creating frontline German spots to be added/removed to global layer periods. In addition, I'll create more spots such as cities, and I'll modify the Frontline.txt files and also the target files as well.

[Linked Image]


Aim is, getting a more accurate frontline all along the war (and thus increasing compatibility with both my land cover and map mods) and getting more accurate flight paths, for two reasons:

(1) As per military strategies, German scouts were very unlikely to cross the lines, while French were usually patrolling frontlines eventually flying 5km over them and BEF were very offensive, trying to fly most of the time inside occupied territory.
(2) Squadrons were under authority of an army and consequently, were fighting over a part of the front assigned to that army.

Just an example. I was re-reading this morning squadron logs of French stork Spa 26 for the months of April and May 1918. In 2 months the only fight inside allied lines has taken place over Breteuil (13.5km French side) at 4000m against 2 recon planes. Apart from that, one can find only one mention of a group of German scouts crossing the lines. All conclusive fights took place inside occupied territory as a consequence of 9/10 frontline patrols between Montdidier and Moreuil, i.e. a 13.5km S to N straight line (see below). The deeper fight seems to have occurred not deeper than 10km German side. (Regarding mission types, they were not varied. Only 2 escort missions to be noted, all others being frontline patrols. As a matter fact, escort were indeed rare because protecting 2-seaters was part of patrol duties.)

[Linked Image]

So, actually, with the same AI for everyone, it is hard to get different behaviors. But I have my little idea by playing with targets. smile


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#4521439 - 05/19/20 01:31 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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Great work, xjouve! OBD should consider hiring you as their resident French WWI expert.


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#4522430 - 05/26/20 03:03 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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Thanks!

Working on global layers and I must admit regarding airfields, it is a complete mess! Some airfields are... well, 'overseas'! pilot

Here are the 87 ones for 1914.

[Linked Image]

Are there a list somewhere of WOFF airfields by region? That would save me time as I'm mainly working by region.

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#4522437 - 05/26/20 03:22 PM Re: New theater (Questions & Progress) [Re: xjouve]  
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OMG there is one there as well ^^

Hopefully, pilots are enjoying a nice warm water there! And, Corsican food is good! I'm pretty sure Sardinian food too. readytoeat

[Linked Image]

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#4522439 - 05/26/20 03:25 PM Re: New theaters (development) [Re: xjouve]  
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Are there a list somewhere of WOFF airfields by region? That would save me time as I'm mainly working by region.

Yes, you can try WOFFScenery/Period/year/Targets/...

#4522457 - 05/26/20 04:41 PM Re: New theaters (development) [Re: xjouve]  
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Originally Posted by xjouve
OMG there is one there as well ^^

Hopefully, pilots are enjoying a nice warm water there! And, Corsican food is good! I'm pretty sure Sardinian food too. readytoeat

[Linked Image]



I think that’s a base for the Sopwith Shark


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#4522463 - 05/26/20 05:12 PM Re: New theaters (development) [Re: Shredward]  
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Originally Posted by JJJ65
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Are there a list somewhere of WOFF airfields by region? That would save me time as I'm mainly working by region.

Yes, you can try WOFFScenery/Period/year/Targets/...


Good idea!


Originally Posted by Shredward
Originally Posted by xjouve
OMG there is one there as well ^^

Hopefully, pilots are enjoying a nice warm water there! And, Corsican food is good! I'm pretty sure Sardinian food too. readytoeat

[Linked Image]



I think that’s a base for the Sopwith Shark


It looks like Freiburg (cf target file below). So, I've relocated it, and also updated the targets file.

Code
Freiburg
Freiburg
N41*08'08.6789
E7*50'10.7607
N41*7'12.4664
E7*52'40.7607
N41*8'14.3001
E7*49'55.7607
Fighter
Null
Null
Null
Null


I set coordinates here. But that's a guess. If someone knows more precisely where to locate it, please feel free to tell me.

[Linked Image]

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#4522502 - 05/26/20 08:48 PM Re: New theaters (development) [Re: xjouve]  
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#4522544 - 05/27/20 08:21 AM Re: New theaters (development) [Re: xjouve]  
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Thanks Shredward! mil-airfields.de is an excellent website; I didn't know it.


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#4523110 - 05/30/20 04:38 PM Re: New theaters (development) [Re: xjouve]  
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I did all frontlines until 1918+9... But I realized that the game can't handle more than about 200 points (the frontline consists in a series of points). I had super precise frontlines, with 350+ points; all of them need to be reworked. Well, I started doing this job, and finished 1916+6 couple of minutes ago.

Additionally to frontlines, I've created from scratch target files for town, troops, forts, etc.; and relocated some from the game. All items being also included into global_layers.

Here's the frontline in the Verdun area in June 1916

[Linked Image]

I've decided to change the ingame map as well.

[Linked Image]







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#4523234 - 05/31/20 09:13 AM Re: New theaters (development) [Re: xjouve]  
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Uff!
I hope you have enough energy for all the work and the details in context with so much other data.

Greetings!

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