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#4553880 - 01/27/21 11:20 PM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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DX11 in?


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#4553893 - 01/28/21 01:11 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Pol, does this effect also work with snow?


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#4553907 - 01/28/21 05:12 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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It should work with snow, too.

I wonder if M & M have any other weather changes in store for us?

#4553914 - 01/28/21 09:39 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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DX9 still, yes works with snow. In my 'spare' time I have been working on a very short video due to popular demand wink. Hopefully we will post it soon.

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#4553919 - 01/28/21 11:29 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Pol, don't kill yourself in the little free time you have. Us impatient folk can learn a lesson or two from waiting winkngrin

This all sounds wonderful.


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#4553925 - 01/28/21 12:32 PM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: AceMedic88]  
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Originally Posted by AceMedic88
Pol, don't kill yourself in the little free time you have. Us impatient folk can learn a lesson or two from waiting winkngrin

This all sounds wonderful.


+1


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#4557558 - 02/24/21 05:14 PM Re: WOFF 2020 thread [Re: Hellshade]  
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Hi guys,

I don't know, if I missed it, but is the option to turn on/off the historical aces deaths part of this update?

Would love it so much. It breaks immersion to protect Manny Richti for the whole duration of the mission, see him go down in flames horrified and then coming back and see that "it was just a scratch".


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#4557561 - 02/24/21 05:29 PM Re: WOFF 2020 thread [Re: Hellshade]  
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Dyro, no it's the same as now. You can't turn off historical aces, but you use the option in Workshop to reduce them from 100s to just the top few.
If you had an "Aces off" button there would be absolutely zero real aces, and zero historical aces skins used and so on. Not something that can be easily done, or we want to do.


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#4557609 - 02/24/21 11:47 PM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Mind. Blown.

Pictures alone cannot convey the immersion that comes from countless new details OBD has brought into BHAH II (beta). You can hear the pilots and ground crew shouting at each other on the field as you prepare for take off. When coming in for a landing on my DRI after taking some serious damage from a Sopwith Strutter rear gunner, not only did I have oil on my screen but the whole engine was shaking and shuddering like it was barely staying airborne. And yes, the rear gunners are dangerous even while pulling hard maneuvers. Attacking landing aircraft for an easy kill? Good luck with that. They take it seriously now. I even had another craft I wasn't attacking swoop down to chase me off the tail of the fellow I was after. The dirt and slightly restricted view from wearing the goggles (all optional in Workshop, of course) makes me feel like I'm really there. More than ever before, the war feels dirty and gritty. Seeing a pair of Spads on my tail firing away and tracers zipping by me, I felt genuine fear because all the new sounds (there seem to be quite a few!) and details worked together to pull me fully into the experience. The flight models, wind buffeting, pilots scanning the skies for danger, etc. There are so many little details added in all at once that this is the only way I can honestly sum it up the BHAH beta :

They used to say if you want to feel like you are flying in a WWI aircraft, fly ROF. If you want to feel like you are flying in the WWI war, fly WOFF. Not any more. WOFF BHAH II puts you in the cockpit flying a WWI aircraft during the war. It's not either or. It's both. I'm literally taking off work tomorrow so I can fly all day. It's that amazing.

A few pics of a Sopwith Bentley career I started with.

Attached Files BHAH2-1.jpgBHAH2-2.jpgBHAH2-3.jpgBHAH2-4.jpg

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#4557620 - 02/25/21 02:08 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Thank you for your update and Pics Hellshade, so in your opinion the FM is a big improvement then? It all looks and sounds fantastic judging by the vids and pics ive seen cheers


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#4557624 - 02/25/21 04:31 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Adger]  
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Originally Posted by Adger
Thank you for your update and Pics Hellshade, so in your opinion the FM is a big improvement then? It all looks and sounds fantastic judging by the vids and pics ive seen cheers


Pics alone can't do it justice by a long shot. Too many new and reworked sounds and animations that mesh together so well. The FM is a thing of beauty. I never feel like its on rails but at the same time its not overly "floaty" either. I'm not sure I've seen any FM behavior I'd want changed so far. One big improvement is no impossible straight dives by AI that I am unable to follow. They dive, but it feels much more realistic and if I work hard I can keep somewhat on their tail without losing my wings. Honestly, you'll just have to see it to believe it.

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#4557626 - 02/25/21 04:50 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Oh wow! ...I do want!
(you make a good salesperson too, lol)

That first shot in your series was really superb, btw.


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#4557630 - 02/25/21 06:10 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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One big improvement is no impossible straight dives by AI that I am unable to follow. They dive, but it feels much more realistic and if I work hard I can keep somewhat on their tail without losing my wings.

That is great news! I have been hoping for this for a long time! Now I wonder what other AI/FM improvements OBD has in store for us.

You beta testers sure make me jealous, but at least that means we are getting close to the release!

#4557638 - 02/25/21 08:23 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Smashing pictures Hellshade. The new AI tweaks sound excellent, especially with regard to two seaters.

Some of the AI gunners are already pretty good, Rolands and Moranes seem extremely diligent already, Strutters, Caudrons and BE2's are pretty good, but the poor FE2b is flown like a sitting duck. Even when you're piloting, the AI gunner seems incredibly reluctant to fire his gun banghead which can be most annoying when you're trying to fly aggressively against enemy aircraft. You're like "Oi!!! What are you ffin waiting for!!! A bloody invite from the King!!! Put that Bully beef butty down and fire or I'll throw you out this thing myself".

So yes improvements to the 'aggressiveness' and 'anticipation' ability of the AI gunners would be great. They are already highly accurate as we know.

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#4557642 - 02/25/21 09:06 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Great report, the anticipation is building...
I'm kind of worried about back seater firing (with true aim?) while hard manoeuvring,
is this possible or historical?

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#4557644 - 02/25/21 10:12 AM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: elephant]  
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Originally Posted by elephant
Great report, the anticipation is building...
I'm kind of worried about back seater firing (with true aim?) while hard manoeuvring,
is this possible or historical?


Only had a few encounters so far. Some of the shots seem wild and others are near misses and some hits. They fire more often but they aren't snipers.


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#4557654 - 02/25/21 12:23 PM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Can you tell if these these things been fixed?

1. The exploding 4 wings breaking off at the same time

2. Escaping a dogfight by flying at treetop level because AI won’t fly that low

3. AI crashing into the ground when dogfighting below about 1000 ft

#4557657 - 02/25/21 12:33 PM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: orbyxP]  
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Originally Posted by orbyxP
Can you tell if these these things been fixed?

1. The exploding 4 wings breaking off at the same time

2. Escaping a dogfight by flying at treetop level because AI won’t fly that low

3. AI crashing into the ground when dogfighting below about 1000 ft


1 - Haven't seen that happen once and I have been trying to make it happen by hitting the planes pretty hard. Can't say 100% of course but at worst, it's now extremely uncommon.

2 - I don't know yet.

3 - Haven't seen it happen yet and have had a few low level scraps. Again, can't say 100% but at worst, no longer common.


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#4557660 - 02/25/21 12:38 PM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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Wow ignore all the new stuff, and get straight to the three things you dislike orbyXP lol.

1. yes reduced in many instances it may still happen from a large explosion or massive damage whatever
2. All sorts of routines have changed and I know I have not tested that one, maybe don't use a "beat the game" strategy if you don't like it working. Maybe Todd can see how it looks.
3. Dogfighting low is inherently dangerous for you and AI, especially when damaged. However there are many AI changes and at least these two will help that come to mind on a quick look:
"Improved Ground Avoidance code"
"Fixed an issue with Boom and BoomF maneuvers at low level that would see the attacker often crash into the ground or dive inverted"



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#4557661 - 02/25/21 01:16 PM Re: WOFF BH&H2 thread (Was WOFF2021 Thread) [Re: Hellshade]  
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I don't like the new name abbreviation. It should be BHaH.II .







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