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#4520560 - 05/11/20 11:25 PM School shooting have been around  
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60 Minutes last night had a report on Ghost Guns used at last year's Saugus High School shooting and I look up school shootings on Wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...United_States_(before_2000)#19th_century

They have been around long before the 1999 Columbine school shootings made school shootings a national awareness in the public and media. The tragic and deadly 1966 UT tower shooting didn't bring school shooting to national consciousness like Columbine did. There have been many school shootings between 1966 and 1999 but the media didn't seem to focus on them as much as they did before Columbine.



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#4520561 - 05/11/20 11:32 PM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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The only thing that makes sense when I read your posts is that your were cryogenically frozen for many years, and when you were thawed out, in front of you sat the internet and bookmarks for SimHQ and wikipedia.


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#4520563 - 05/11/20 11:56 PM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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#4520564 - 05/12/20 12:01 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Here's the 60 minutes report that I am watching

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghost-guns-untraceable-weapons-criminal-cases-60-minutes-2020-05-10/

Outside of the 1966 UT tower shooting, I have not heard of shooting at schools grade 0-12 prior to Columbine.

Did you look at that Wiki page, there has been school shootings in the USA prior to 1999 back to 1764. I bet you didn't know that before I posted that link.


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#4520565 - 05/12/20 12:04 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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One reason probably was when Charles Whitman was shooting from the UT tower there wasn't a 24 hour news show to fan the flames..I was 17 back then and remember seeing it on the half hour news we got at night..Today you get round the clock news from a ton of sources and they help create the mass hysteria ..Must have been something on the news because I easily remembered the name of the shooter or maybe it is because he was a Marine and I might have seen it in Full Metal Jacket


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#4520568 - 05/12/20 12:11 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Look at all of these in the 70s, 80s, and 90s prior to 1999 Columbine. None of them I can remember hearing about, saw on TV news, ore read in newspapers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...United_States_(before_2000)#19th_century


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#4520569 - 05/12/20 12:18 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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in 1979 you had this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_(San_Diego)



Which led to Bob Geldof writing "I Don't Like Mondays" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Don%27t_Like_Mondays



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yteMugRAc0


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#4520571 - 05/12/20 12:38 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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FlyBoy I don't think from 1764 there was much media coverage of those things ..And the news sensationalized mass shooting not single shootings...To me the sad things are the memorials,,marches,,demonstration,,protests and the usual political call for prayers and after a bit everybody just moves on


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Originally Posted by DBond
The only thing that makes sense when I read your posts is that your were cryogenically frozen for many years, and when you were thawed out, in front of you sat the internet and bookmarks for SimHQ and wikipedia.


Brilliant.

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#4520575 - 05/12/20 12:45 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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The lack of the internet and 24 hour cables news are largely responsible for what you are or are not seeing. You really need to take a deeper perspective on things since social awareness in completely different now than it was fifty years ago.


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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
The lack of the internet and 24 hour cables news are largely responsible for what you are or are not seeing. You really need to take a deeper perspective on things since social awareness in completely different now than it was fifty years ago.

+1 Spot On


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Originally Posted by rwatson
Originally Posted by cichlidfan
The lack of the internet and 24 hour cables news are largely responsible for what you are or are not seeing. You really need to take a deeper perspective on things since social awareness in completely different now than it was fifty years ago.

+1 Spot On


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#4520585 - 05/12/20 01:27 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: cichlidfan]  
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No worries,,, It hits on what the problem is


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Originally Posted by rwatson
One reason probably was when Charles Whitman was shooting from the UT tower there wasn't a 24 hour news show to fan the flames..I was 17 back then and remember seeing it on the half hour news we got at night..Today you get round the clock news from a ton of sources and they help create the mass hysteria ..Must have been something on the news because I easily remembered the name of the shooter or maybe it is because he was a Marine and I might have seen it in Full Metal Jacket

We even had it on the news up here in Kanukland.


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#4520622 - 05/12/20 10:38 AM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
The lack of the internet and 24 hour cables news are largely responsible for what you are or are not seeing. You really need to take a deeper perspective on things since social awareness in completely different now than it was fifty years ago.



In a nutshell this is essentially it.


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#4520647 - 05/12/20 03:26 PM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I read that Wiki a couple years ago after I think the Florida school shooting. I noticed the same thing and was surprised honestly that this has been happening for a long long time. But I think they reflect the times the kids are raised in and it ebbs and flows.

As far as the news is concerned, if you ever get the chance watch "Network" from 1976, it was not a satire, it was a prediction.

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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by cichlidfan
The lack of the internet and 24 hour cables news are largely responsible for what you are or are not seeing. You really need to take a deeper perspective on things since social awareness in completely different now than it was fifty years ago.



In a nutshell this is essentially it.


The same comparison can be made 200 years earlier. At that time, most people had never seen a photograph of the people running for president. If they had, it is highly unlikely that Abraham Lincoln would ever have been elected.

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Originally Posted by DBond
The only thing that makes sense when I read your posts is that your were cryogenically frozen for many years, and when you were thawed out, in front of you sat the internet and bookmarks for SimHQ and wikipedia.


rofl

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#4520659 - 05/12/20 05:45 PM Re: School shooting have been around [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Back when I was a kid, if you had a problem with someone, you settled it with fists, then a few hours later, proverbially speaking the two of you'd be sharing a beer together.

Kids these days somehow have failed to learn this aspect of masculinity/humanity.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Back when I was a kid, if you had a problem with someone, you settled it with fists, then a few hours later, proverbially speaking the two of you'd be sharing a beer together.

Kids these days somehow have failed to learn this aspect of masculinity/humanity.


This can be fine with kids of equal physical stature, whether friends or a bully situation, but that's often not the case.



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