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#4517222 - 04/19/20 05:43 PM what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf?  
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https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020...n-us-navy-of-potential-response/12163414

Isn’t it a bit weird for a little Coastguard cutter to be sailing with the big boys so far from, you know, the US Coast?


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#4517255 - 04/19/20 11:37 PM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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Originally Posted by HeinKill
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020...n-us-navy-of-potential-response/12163414

Isn’t it a bit weird for a little Coastguard cutter to be sailing with the big boys so far from, you know, the US Coast?



In wartime (WWII, Korea, Vietnam for instance) the USCG serves alongside the US Navy therefore in peacetime they need to train likewise.


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by HeinKill
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020...n-us-navy-of-potential-response/12163414

Isn’t it a bit weird for a little Coastguard cutter to be sailing with the big boys so far from, you know, the US Coast?



In wartime (WWII, Korea, Vietnam for instance) the USCG serves alongside the US Navy therefore in peacetime they need to train likewise.


When I was deployed for OEF, I ran into a Coast Guard guy in the middle of Afghanistan. That was a WTF moment for me.


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#4517288 - 04/20/20 04:23 AM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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Guy I knew just before I left to Basic retired as a recruiter from the CG. Served in the Gulf for 3 years dealing with security of the Oil Pumping Stations for the tankers.


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#4517305 - 04/20/20 10:34 AM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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It seems like the old joke of joining the CG in order to avoid a deployment outside the US no longer applies!


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#4517307 - 04/20/20 10:36 AM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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It's not any different than the national guard thinking you won't have to go fight a war. They also get deployed outside the USA during wars. Or the Air National Guard, same thing. They also get combat missions during wars.


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
It seems like the old joke of joining the CG in order to avoid a deployment outside the US no longer applies!


That hurts.

I had an uncle who did 30 years in the Coast Guard.

He had this map of the world with pins on all the places he'd been. It was everywhere. Near North pole, South pole, just everywhere (I will confess he was quite an overachiever though)...

I will repeat that he was pretty hardcore - but he was living proof that the US Coast Guard does a lot more than people think...

I saw his retirement "ceremony" in 1980. He had five chevrons on his arm, and there was a bunch of guys (also retiring) with four asking "How'd you get FIVE?"...

His answer was "Four years on base". He never told me or them exactly what or where that was about...

I of course have no proof of this. I only know how hard ass he was...

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Could not agree more. Shallow comment.

Originally Posted by Zamzow
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
It seems like the old joke of joining the CG in order to avoid a deployment outside the US no longer applies!


That hurts.

I had an uncle who did 30 years in the Coast Guard.

He had this map of the world with pins on all the places he'd been. It was everywhere. Near North pole, South pole, just everywhere (I will confess he was quite an overachiever though)...

I will repeat that he was pretty hardcore - but he was living proof that the US Coast Guard does a lot more than people think...

I saw his retirement "ceremony" in 1980. He had five chevrons on his arm, and there was a bunch of guys (also retiring) with four asking "How'd you get FIVE?"...

His answer was "Four years on base". He never told me or them exactly what or where that was about...

I of course have no proof of this. I only know how hard ass he was...








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Originally Posted by JimK
Could not agree more. Shallow comment.




It has nothing to do with being a "shallow comment" since I was not the one who created this joke which has existed maybe for several decades now? As with most jokes concerning the military branches, they are uninformed and inaccurate to a large degree but you also cannot dispute the fact that the public at large has these misconceptions about the CG. The National Guard too for that matter.


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#4517587 - 04/22/20 01:54 PM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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It doesn't apply to modern day, but in WW2 the Treasury-class cutters were probably the Americans' best-suited escort vessel in the Atlantic. Big and beamy, they were excellent blue-water escorts.

One of the Coast Guard training centers is a few miles from me in Cape May, NJ. When I was growing up my dad hired many of the recruits to work for him while they were here training before getting their first assignment. Some of them I am still friends with. One of my best friends from high school went to the academy, did the tall ship cruise around the world (or half of it, I think they swap classes half way). He later went to the FBI.

I got pulled over one time by the USCG in a Zodiak type boat. Not my best day.


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#4517755 - 04/23/20 01:53 PM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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I guess I wasn't so much surprised by the inclusion of coast guard vessel but perhaps the vessel itself. It seems kinda small to be so far from home ...
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Originally Posted by HeinKill
It seems kinda small to be so far from home ...

It still dwarves the ships in which Colombus crossed the Atlantic

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#4517840 - 04/23/20 10:39 PM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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Originally Posted by HeinKill
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020...n-us-navy-of-potential-response/12163414

Isn’t it a bit weird for a little Coastguard cutter to be sailing with the big boys so far from, you know, the US Coast?


the world is just america backyard in case you didnt know Blade, getting tired of warning you about political shots in Community Hall. This one just cost you two weeks suspension.


thanks for the tidbits ,though i wasnt aware of that training

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#4517859 - 04/24/20 12:13 AM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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Originally Posted by HeinKill
I guess I wasn't so much surprised by the inclusion of coast guard vessel but perhaps the vessel itself. It seems kinda small to be so far from home ...
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But I guess they only have one of these guys:

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USCG has 8 of those (Legend class) on active service, plus the the three old Hamilton class.

Back in the Cold War, those things used to carry Harpoons and ASW torpedoes . . . The offensive weapons have been since removed, but their defensive suites are on par with the frigates of many navies.

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Saw this in other readings and thought it was appropriate for here.


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#4520450 - 05/11/20 12:43 PM Re: what is the US coastguard doing in the Persian Gulf? [Re: HeinKill]  
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Don't think that Coast Guard cutter and U.S. Navy ships will have to worry much about the Iranian Navy

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-52612511


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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Don't think that Coast Guard cutter and U.S. Navy ships will have to worry much about the Iranian Navy

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-52612511


Iran hasn’t had a vaunted navy since about 350 BC when the Persian Empire had one!


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According to WIKI they currently do have operational full size Submarines and Frigates. They don't just have the little patrol boats and gunboats and corvettes we see on the news harassing Western countries navies. I wonder why they don't attempt to come at the Western navies with those Frigates and Submarines? It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.


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Because they know the life span of those "assets" will be measured in short minutes...hopefully.

Remember the US Navy recently killed more of their own than the Iranians just lost. Why?

Because some admirals didn't think it was cost effective to require naval officers to be effectively taught how to navigate a vessel. dizzy



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