#4515172 - 04/07/20 06:12 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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them smokers are the greatest safety hazard to society. . My cynical mind makes me think that maybe the reason why cigarettes haven't been outright banned in most countries is because national governments don't want to miss out on those big tax revenues from their sale?
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#4515179 - 04/07/20 06:55 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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them smokers are the greatest safety hazard to society. . My cynical mind makes me think that maybe the reason why cigarettes haven't been outright banned in most countries is because national governments don't want to miss out on those big tax revenues from their sale? I don't want that to stop either. If the tobacco tax stops, why they'll probably start expecting ME and/or YOU to pay up more on something else. Be nice to smokers, they pay taxes so you don't have to. That's my pro smoker campaign and I'm running with it.
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#4515219 - 04/07/20 09:47 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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And it probably doesn’t belong here anyway.
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#4515231 - 04/07/20 10:34 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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Seen some reports here that one of Trump's companies is a major manufacturer of one of the drugs mentioned here.
I'll go back and find the link to the story in the morning, too late and enjoying your national beer day at the moment, Santé! That was an on-air musing of a [sarcasm] totally unbiased mainstream news reporter [/sarcasm] with zero evidence.
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#4515241 - 04/07/20 11:18 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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It was in a couple of newspapers, The one I read I cannot find again, it was also in the UK's Metro quoting an article in the NY Times. Other media picked up on a no evidence on air musing and reported it as fact? No, that never happens.
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#4515243 - 04/07/20 11:22 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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It's what they do.
Cheap shots and sucker punches.
The NY Times ain't what it used to be, that's for sure. I don't know who said it on the air...no doubt one of the usual irresponsibles trying to grind their favorite ax, down to a pocket knife. Irresponsibles ...hmmm...I like it.
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#4515244 - 04/07/20 11:23 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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Let’s let it go at that. No need to keep it going.
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#4515633 - 04/10/20 12:56 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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On Zinc - let's clear something up.
One needs to take a LOT of Zinc to gain a real benefit from it, and it's not something one should do for an extended period of time. The good doctor is pumping huge doses in there.
Most over the counter Zinc supplements contain so little Zinc that it's pissing into the ocean - but they don't do any harm, and if, as it was pointed out, combined with a diet of high Zinc foods can be beneficial in maintaining already good health.
An example of this is iron. I have a relative that had severe anemia, and so the doctors hooked her up to a bag of iron (liquid rust, basically) to get her levels back. This was great for her. It would also be very, very, very bad if they hooked up that same bag to me, as I am not anemic.
And as stated, when one is at death's door and the doctor says "Whelp, nothing is working here, but I have a sort of long shot idea that's not tested or approved..." the answer is "why the f*ck not, let's do it."
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events. More dumb stuff at http://www.darts-page.comFrom Laser: "The forum is the place where combat (real time) flight simulator fans come to play turn based strategy combat."
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#4515644 - 04/10/20 02:19 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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PLEASE don't post it if it is an obvious unsubstantiated claim. No, it is substantiated. A few Trump family trusts have an investment, totaling somewhere between $90 and $1500, in mutual funds that invest in a company that used to, but no longer, distributes the name brand version of hydroxychloroquine in the US. So, if the drug proves effective, and if the company were again to start making/distributing it for the US market, President Trump, a billionaire, might stand to make a profit in the ballpark of $300.
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#4515959 - 04/12/20 11:43 AM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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Some British hospitals are trialling hydroxychloroquine. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...anti-malaria-drug-endorsed-donald-trump/Text below if you can't see the site. Coronavirus patients in NHS hospitals have begun receiving a controversial anti-malarial drug, as leaks reveal fear among staff that global stocks will run out. Barts in London and the Royal Devon and Exeter are among trusts now handing out hydroxychloroquine, described by Donald Trump as a “gamechanger”, in a bid to keep seriously ill Covid-19 patients alive. The medication has been incorporated into the Chinese guidance for the management of the virus. However, the NHS has so far “strongly discouraged” use of the drug other than in the hospital trials because evidence of usefulness is so limited. It comes amid a furious row in the US, provoked by the President’s enthusiastic backing of the off-licensed drug. Meanwhile, a rupture in the French medical community emerged in recent days as a leading cardiologist accused Hydroxychloroquine of damaging the hearts of 54 coronavirus patients, four of whom died, while Emmanuel Macron appeared to endorse a virologist who claimed a related medication, chloroquine, was a breakthrough. Hydroxychloroquine is a synthetic compound created 75 years ago to replace quinine, derived from a chichona tree, as a malaria treatment. Medics have subsequently used it against chronic inflammatory diseases such as lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. Chinese doctors are believed to have turned to it on the basis that it showed some promising results in animals infected with SARS and MERS, two other coronaviruses. Although they have now recommended it, the Chinese medical establishment has not released the supporting data. WhatsApp messages from doctors involved in administering the drug at Bart’s, seen by The Telegraph, indicate that Covid-19 patients will be given the drug for five days at a time. They also reveal fears about its long term availability. “This shouldn’t have too much of an impact on availability in the short term. However over the next 2-3 months it might cause some issues particularly if similar approaches are adopted by other trusts/countries around Europe,” one message read. Earlier this month, India announced a ban on the export of the anti-malarial drug, but then reversed its decision following threats of retaliation by the White House. Mr Trump has been criticised publicly endorsing the drug for coronavirus patients in the absence of systematic evidence. “What have you got to lose? Take it,” he urged last weekend, while boasting that the US had access to 29 million doses. Having been accused of irresponsibility by many political opponents, Mr Trump was then thanked by a Democratic state lawmaker, who credited his recovery from coronavirus to Hydroxychloroquine. A trial of Hydroxychloroquine began in the US on Thursday, overseen by the National Institutes of Health. The Telegraph can also reveal that Barts Health NHS Trust has decided to use the rheumatoid arthritis drug Tocilizumab for some severe Covid-19 patients. Its ability to stabilise rapidly deteriorating patients has been the subject of wide speculation among doctors in the NHS, many of whom have used WhatsApp to share an advice memo derived from an intensive care specialist in Lombardy which recommends its use. A spokesman for Barts said: “Barts Health NHS Trust has convened an expert clinical group to consider novel medications in the treatment of Covid-19. “The evidence base is limited for all such drugs and we are actively recruiting patients to major clinical trials that have been prioritised by the Dept of Health and Social Care. “These include hydroxychloroquine, kaletra, steroids and Remdesivir." He added: “For a small number of carefully selected patients, we have recommended some novel therapies for immediate use, including immunomodulatory drugs such as Tocilizumab.” A spokesman for the Royal Devon and Exeter NHS Foundation Trust said patients would be selected at random by computer for participation in the Hydroxychloroquine trial.
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#4515963 - 04/12/20 11:55 AM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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So tired of hearing about the side effects of Hydroxy. Arthritis and lupos are a common ailment and Hydroxy has been widely used for those diseases for decades. Never once have I ever seen a headline about this drug's side effects and it's 'heart attacking" nature till now. Here's a Google news search for hydroxychloroquine and heart attack from 2000 to 2018. Amazing how there's little news about Hydroxy killing people... hydroxychloroquine search Had Xanax been the game changer, the media would have sensationalized its side effects including death. And here's proof. Ibuprofen increases risk for heart attack. "Fatal heart fears over use of common painkillers: Drugs including ibuprofen found to raise the risk of cardiac arrest by up to 50%"
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#4516060 - 04/12/20 09:26 PM
Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.
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https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/covid-19/Update from the the virology institute in Marseille that began it all (where Dr. Didier Raoult works) has a running counter of how many patients they have treated with HCQ+Azithromycin and how many of those patients have died. 2494 treated, only 10 deaths, all over age 75. That's 99.6% survival rate.
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