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#4513312 - 03/29/20 12:27 PM Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital.  
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https://youtu.be/9WJONReaIo0

Dr Zelenko has treated 700 covid patients, zero deaths, only 4 hospitalizations, and they will be fine according to Zelenko.

This is a 3 drug combo, using the malaria drug, a common antibiotic, and a third.

Several hospitals were allotted this drug for testing.

Despite what you hear from the panicked, this drug is SAFE, has been used for ages, and is prescribed to children. Used to treat malaria, arthritis, and lupus.

This is good news. Teva Pharma has donated 6 million tablets to the USA and are making 10 million more.


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#4513334 - 03/29/20 02:00 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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#4513388 - 03/29/20 07:10 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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We have hope.

The malaria drug is an ACE2 inhibitor. Think of your cell as a door, and on that door is a lock--the ACE2 lock. If you pour concrete in the lock, then the key, the virus, can't enter the lock and unlock it, or enter the cell and replicate. The antibiotic kills the infection, but I'm not sure what the zinc does.

#4513401 - 03/29/20 09:03 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Hope indeed.


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#4513402 - 03/29/20 09:13 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Zinc helps out the immune system fight the infection.


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#4513465 - 03/30/20 10:36 AM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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They must be seeing some significant enough results with this drug combo because the HHS has received 30 million pills donation from Novartis alone. Bayer and others are ramping up production.


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#4513468 - 03/30/20 10:38 AM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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This is certainly good news. It's great to hear.


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#4514074 - 04/02/20 09:32 AM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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New results as more doctors are using the drug combo.

Dr. Stephen Smith infectious disease expert in NJ says this is the end of corona.

https://youtu.be/k4VPnjIXAb8


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#4514082 - 04/02/20 10:41 AM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Originally Posted by TerribleTwo
New results as more doctors are using the drug combo.

Dr. Stephen Smith infectious disease expert in NJ says this is the end of corona.

https://youtu.be/k4VPnjIXAb8



Certainly looks promising but I'll wait for more of his peers to join in and confirm the findings.


We don't want to get ahead of ourselves here with any false hopes.


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#4514096 - 04/02/20 11:54 AM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Conference call between several doctors. Well worth listening.

Couple points: Penicillin was also a wartime drug that had no clinical trials.

And this drug combo needs to start early for the at risk patients. Some doctors are still waiting till the patient gets much worse. So protocol still needs established.

https://youtu.be/-Oq6IOP1sd8


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#4514097 - 04/02/20 11:58 AM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: ArgonV]  
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Originally Posted by ArgonV
Zinc helps out the immune system fight the infection.


Good to know. I eat high-zinc foods daily and also take a Men's One-A-Day (Zinc 15mg 100%). Also trying to beef up my cardio as quickly as possible (had already started with half-assed efforts for a couple of recent 5k's).

I keep this up until Coronas passes, I should be in the best shape of my life.



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#4514098 - 04/02/20 12:01 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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snopes.com seems sceptical of the idea.

#4514107 - 04/02/20 01:02 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Snopes isn't even relevant here.

Listen to the doctors.


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#4514108 - 04/02/20 01:11 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I believe what's not relevant here are claims that aren't appropriatly verified trough detailed studies. No reputable news channel is carrying this story.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zelenko-669-coronavirus-patients/
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As has been noted elsewhere, combining hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin can cause serious problems for people with certain heart conditions. Though zinc appears to be an important factor in several immune functions, a potential mechanism for how it might work against viral infections is not well-understood.

In an interview with Forward, Zelenko “acknowledged that his regimen was new and untested, and that it was too soon to assess its long-term effectiveness.” He instead argued that “the risks of waiting to verify its efficacy” were greater. This is an assertion with which public health officials largely disagree.

Regardless, making an assertion in a blog post or in a YouTube interview that neither describes the study design nor provides the actual data used to reach a conclusion about efficacy cannot, in any way, be critically evaluated. As such, this claim is rated “Unproven.”

#4514109 - 04/02/20 01:26 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Youre reading old news.

This story is changing daily, even hourly, and the updated information is readily available. Doctors that are on the front line battling this virus firsthand.

Listen to the recently uploaded conference call between several doctors I posted. And it sounds like protocol is as important as the drugs used. Treat early and with zinc in the mix.


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#4514116 - 04/02/20 01:51 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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This treatment is not new at all. Zelenko keeps working on what has been tested in China and France (and probably other countries) in late February/early March.

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Originally Posted by TerribleTwo
Listen to the recently uploaded conference call between several doctors I posted.


A Youtube Channel with less than 200 subscripers as a primary source of information?

Sorry, but you're acting like any generic Conspiracy Theorist here. This crisis is full of fake rumours, and everyone of us should keep a cool head and only share reliable news.

If a treatment would be showing promise, you'd be hearing about it from credible major sources of information, either government or media.

#4514122 - 04/02/20 02:00 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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1. Credible Media is very hard to find these days

2. Government sources of information normally require so many levels of approval it could take days/weeks for "approved" information to get out.

Am I gonna rush out and try to get this or its equivalent? Nope. nope

If I am in a ICU on a ventilator and the Doc want's try something "not approved am I gonna say yes? yep


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#4514124 - 04/02/20 02:02 PM Re: Drug combo working. Covid. Dr Zelenko NYC hospital. [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I have to agree with RSColonel here.


Also keep in mind that this is the kind of stuff the mainstream news media loves to do. They love to jump to conclusions and give air time to any person or group which makes a stunning claim so they can get higher viewer ratings.


The amount of sensationalism in current day news reporting is ridiculous.


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Listen to the recently uploaded conference call between several doctors I posted.


A Youtube Channel with less than 200 subscripers as a primary source of information?

Sorry, but you're acting like any generic Conspiracy Theorist here. This crisis is full of fake rumours, and everyone of us should keep a cool head and only share reliable news.

If a treatment would be showing promise, you'd be hearing about it from credible major sources of information, either government or media.


I can't post everything I've read. There are several studies from 2005 that indicate hydroxychloroquine was effective against SARS Cov I, which closely resembles Covid 19. So there are those studies to look at.

Time isn't really a luxury here, as any of these doctors will tell you. We can do both, use what may be working, and do clinical trials as well for this and other drugs.


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