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#4509674 - 03/06/20 04:11 AM Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!!  
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#4509675 - 03/06/20 04:40 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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The CGI looks bad...really BAD. Like a cutscene from a video game ....I'm surprised Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman didn't insist on more practical effects given their past involvement with Band of Brothers and The Pacific...I'm kinda scared for Masters of the Air now nope

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#4509678 - 03/06/20 05:12 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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This looks like it might be interesting. It certainly will be good, Tom Hank's hasn't made crap since Joe vs. The Volcano but I am going to bet it will take some liberties with history, especially accuracy.

Still trying to figure out how they are going to explain Hanks as a Lt. Commander in 1942. The guy is 63 years old. Halsey was younger at the same point in the war. He would have been too old to draft and he would have been mandatory retired from the Navy long before the start of WW2. He could have been a merchant captain that volunteered but I don't know the age restrictions in 1942. The story has him out as a first time destroyer commander on his first combat mission.


I think the average age of a Lt. Commander during WW2 was probably under 35, even early on. I don't know, maybe they will CGI the s**t out of him which is fine as long as he doesn't look like a character from Polar Express.

And I know the selection of WW2 era destroyers is limited but there were very few Fletcher class DDs in 1942. The first ones weren't commissioned until June of 1942 and almost all of them immediately made for the Pacific. If anything they should have taken the USS Kidd and CGI altered it to look like a prewar Mahan or Porter class, something relatively new but not at the same level as a Fletcher. They certainly wouldn't turn one over to a 60 year old probable reserve officer who has never had a combat patrol of any kind, even in 1942. More than likely he would start out with an older four stacker and worked his way toward the newer ships when they came on line.

But these are early nitpicks. I am hoping it is good. We need good WW2 movies, especially ones with talent like Tom Hanks. He is getting too old for these roles but maybe he will inspire others start picking up more of the slack. Midway was ok but a little too hokey for modern times. I rolled my eyes at it as much as I enjoyed other parts.


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#4509680 - 03/06/20 05:50 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Looks awesome to me, but I loved The Enemy Below and have wanted a movie like that for a long time.
I’ll take a great movie with less than cutting edge cgi over top notch cgi and a crappy movie any day.


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#4509681 - 03/06/20 05:53 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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In an artistic, cinematic, non-realistic way its cool and eerie looking when the wolf pack surfaces to that sinister music/sound effects segment. To me it looks entertaining but like someone alluded to its cool looking in a computer graphics kind of way which when then translated to simulated scale doesn't look realistic. I'd prefer to see more practical effects too to be more realistic and organic and natural looking. Maybe even Hunt for Red October level practical effects with slight cg touch ups or masking but I prefer to see something that is actually there, be it a real ship or a model of some kind. I have a hard time with Tom Hanks as of late but this looks like at the very least to be an entertaining watch perhaps.


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#4509682 - 03/06/20 06:00 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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They couldn't use the same submarine mock up that was used tor U571 for the U-Boat scenes?

When is Masters of the Air coming out? We been waiting a long time.

It has been almost 10 years since The Pacific.


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#4509683 - 03/06/20 06:54 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Thx for sharing, had not heard of this one yet!
Probably loosely inspired by the true story behind Convoys HX 229 and SC 122.
Way too much cgi to my taste but will give it a go anyway.

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#4509684 - 03/06/20 07:19 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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ah yes.,.......inspired in actual events written by an actor

#4509697 - 03/06/20 11:32 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: Wklink]  
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Originally Posted by Wklink


Still trying to figure out how they are going to explain Hanks as a Lt. Commander in 1942. The guy is 63 years old.


The same way it was explained how Lee Marvin could portray a US Army Sergeant as a 56 year old in the "Big Red One" in 1980? smile

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#4509699 - 03/06/20 11:35 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: Wklink]  
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Originally Posted by Wklink

And I know the selection of WW2 era destroyers is limited but there were very few Fletcher class DDs in 1942. The first ones weren't commissioned until June of 1942 and almost all of them immediately made for the Pacific. If anything they should have taken the USS Kidd and CGI altered it to look like a prewar Mahan or Porter class, something relatively new but not at the same level as a Fletcher. They certainly wouldn't turn one over to a 60 year old probable reserve officer who has never had a combat patrol of any kind, even in 1942. More than likely he would start out with an older four stacker and worked his way toward the newer ships when they came on line.




For history geeks like us at SimHQ this is some awesome analysis but let's be honest here, probably about 95% of the mainstream audience who will go see this movie won't even notice these errors.


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#4509726 - 03/06/20 01:56 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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#4509735 - 03/06/20 02:18 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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As for Tom’s age, he’s an actor. Doesn’t matter his own age. At 63 today he looks like a guy in his 40’s back then, so it isn’t a conflict.
Halsey was barely 60 but looked over 80 by today’s standards.
So many movies these days like to unrealistically show 20-somethings as teenagers, as if teenagers are fully grown adults.
This time Hollywood actually did it right, having someone older but actually properly physically fits the look of the role.


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#4509736 - 03/06/20 02:24 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
As for Tom’s age, he’s an actor. Doesn’t matter his own age. At 63 today he looks like a guy in his 40’s back then, so it isn’t a conflict.
Halsey was barely 60 but looked over 80 by today’s standards.
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It must have been all of that tobacco smoking and 3 Martini lunches that aged men a lot back in the 40's. biggrin


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#4509738 - 03/06/20 02:28 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
As for Tom’s age, he’s an actor. Doesn’t matter his own age. At 63 today he looks like a guy in his 40’s back then, so it isn’t a conflict.
Halsey was barely 60 but looked over 80 by today’s standards.
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It must have been all of that tobacco smoking and 3 Martini lunches that aged men a lot back in the 40's. biggrin


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#4509740 - 03/06/20 02:29 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Yep. The good ole days! When pulling some scotch out of your desk and lighting up a still-healthy cig for a meeting wouldn’t get you sent to rehab or fired.


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#4509745 - 03/06/20 02:49 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Looks very pew pew, should be fun on the big screen. Even though these movies are always go a bit extra they are still cool to drag the kids too. They generally ask a ton of questions and gain some knowledge of events they don't know much about.


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#4509748 - 03/06/20 02:54 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: Ajay]  
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Originally Posted by Ajay
Looks very pew pew, should be fun on the big screen.



In other words, you can tell right away it's a Hollywood film. smile


Stuff like "Gallipoli" and "The Lighthorsemen" would be snooze-fests for an American audience.


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#4509807 - 03/06/20 10:52 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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The captain in the novel was older than other destroyer skippers. He had been passed over for promotion and figured his navy career was over. But then, the war broke out and destroyer captains were badly needed. He finally got his command. But he was full of doubts about himself and wether he had what it takes. Was the navy right in not promoting him? Was he not good enough? Did he only get his command because the navy was desperate. All of these questions are tearing at him as he sets out to sea.
On the cover of that book, you can see that the illustrator showed him with grey hair.


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#4509812 - 03/06/20 11:33 PM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Everyone complains about CGI and it's not perfect by any means, but I see nothing in this trailer that is as bad as the butt-ugly Buchons that stood in for real Bf-109E's in the otherwise fabulous 1969 movie "Battle of Britain" or the M-48's pretending to be Panzers in the 1970 classic "Patton".


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#4509819 - 03/07/20 01:53 AM Re: Greyhound: another WW2 film with beautiful CGI and... Tom Hanks!! It's not a WW2 film if it doesn't stars Tom Hanks!! [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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But in Patton and Battle of Britain, they had real planes and real tanks which I prefer to ugly CGI.

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