64 cores/128 threads for "only" $4000 -- actually much cheaper than Intel's closest CPU.

As one article notes: "it does obliterate the [Intel] competition". However, the shear number of cores/threads are not ideal for all uses. We know that

Over 20 reviews linked at this site.

Review Link Article

3990X is for professionals. For now, most desktop users/gamers should not go higher than AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core/32Thread ($750).

EDIT: This article was in error. Latest W10 Pro does support full 64c/128t according to AMD. Older W10 Pro updates may not.

Coronavirus may delay some of those new CPUs and GPUs expected this year.

Sometimes when buying a laptop, one wonders what CPU/APU to get. AMD provides a chart.

Just as I was about to check for W10 updates, I read:



I guess I'll wait.

Update: Uh oh. It installed itself and awaits shutdown/restart. We'll see if it hits me.

Update 2: I paused it before it installed. Now I have a few days to consider. I assume failure is unusual. But, I don't want to deal with a failure today.

Regarding previous post written yesterday:

I re-allowed updates today. Windows 10 checked for updates. Yesterday's updates seemed to have been modified with new updates with different ID numbers.

I allowed the updates and seem to have no issues.

Great article P-daz, thanks.

Tried AMD twice. First a "local" built AMD CPU w/Radeon GPU (like 1997). Usable, but any problems I had were GPU/driver related.

Next time around a laptop. Some Windows CPU related problems, mostly GPU (whatever AMD's top of the line mobile GPU was then..around 1999-2000), some BAD problems with a lot of gaming software I played. More than enough to piss me off and also convince me the "discount" wasn't worth the problems at all.

Since then, I have built 4 or 5 Intel/nVidia based desktops with very successful results.

I tried and didn't like the results. It also seems to me many of the current issues sound very like the issues I had in the NINETIES!

That is a long time...

"Nearly half of all AMD users who took part in the poll responded ‘Yes’" Its known that folks who are disappointed are likely to respond. Folks who are happy don't usually respond.

So, one cannot conclude that half of the AMD GPU users have problems. "The poll suggests that 48% of all AMD users have suffered major issues," is not supported.

I saw the article and would have posted it here if it seemed an accurate assessment. Looked too much like "click bait" to me. To each his own.

Meantime, I've RARELY had AMD GPU driver issues -- and I've used AMD GPUs since 2003 -- 17 years. One minor Navi issue that did not last long. Lately, I play my games at ultra settings at 4K (when that resolution is offered).

No-one is concluding that half of the AMD GPU users have problems, the article specifically states that "nearly half of all the AMD users to took part in the poll" so that's what that reference is to......however, they do go on to summarise their poll and say that "The poll suggests" ........so 'suggests' is the keyword and it's absolutely accurate because that's exactly what the results indicate.




Well, lets be honest here, anything from wccftech could be considered clickbait as it's a well-known AMD rumour/aggregator site that has proven to be very unreliable over the years with predictions that are way off the mark....yet that's where you get 99.9% of your daily articles and links from and the content of this thread is really just a summary of some of those articles! I doubt very much that you saw the techspot article, but still class that as 'clickbait' even though wccftech are running their own headline on it......

Despite All Efforts, AMD Radeon GPU...ing, Inconsistent Clocks And More Issues ..........so I'd be interested to hear whether that article is also considered 'clickbait' too given that it's from your favourite site and the one you get most of your content from?



Given that AMD didn't buy out ATI until 2006 that's not an accurate statement at all....however I'm sure if you were run a poll or survey of AMD GPU owners (myself included) there was a period of time when their drivers were an utter joke and updates especially had all sorts of issues over quite a long period of time. It's widely known too so not sure why you'd try to wipe that under the carpet. Anyway, their history is irrelevant now as they seem to have turned things around but the point is, and the point of this article is that there are still issues with the current driver sets......you only need to google it and the pages are absolutely full of communities still having lots of issues.

I stand corrected

I started with 3DFx (still have their original GPU as keepsake), then Nvidia (IIRC), then ATI and stayed with it (with another Nvidia or two along the way). I worried when AMD bought them out. Been so long, I momentarily forgot. By the way, I was Intel CPU before AMD.

And, yes, I click through sites every morning. The second one is WCCFtech because they summarize a lot of sites and have some forward looking rumors that occasionally seem worth repeating -- saves time.

However, some rumors are too unfounded and I often don't like their "tone of voice" towards Intel (among others) in other rumors. So, I'm selective regarding WCCFtech lines I cut and paste.

Intel, Nvidia, and AMD make good competitive products -- i.e each wins some and loses some.

We await an AMD GPU that can compete with Nvidia FPS on the high end. However, Nvidia long ago said they would never let AMD beat them on maximum FPS. Its Nvidia's brand identity to be "fastest" FPS. If Nvidia has a few extra FPS, that makes AMD cards slightly less expensive -- Competition is good

A earlier cut-past post in this thread (above) had given wrong information. Threadripper 3990X works fine with ordinary W10 Pro.

In summary, formal documentation of a series of AMD GPUs RX 5800 to RX 5950 XT has been spotted.

This implies release of the new GPUs in 3 to 6 months (the article says).

The model numbers imply cards more powerful than RX5700XT. But, how much more powerful is an unknown.

Meantime, Nvidia is doing quite well:



The attachment shows the stock value climbing dramatically higher over the years.

Nvidia has the money to spend to keep a lead over AMD at the high end. But, so did Intel -- however, a few bad Intel decisions have lead to "parity" in desktop and commercial CPU markets. So, we'll see.

Competition is good

Since negative news affects AMD Current Status:

wccftech had another negative article on possibly excessive AMD driver issues. Upon reconsideration of a few things, it still reads like click bait to me. I have not noticed any mention on the other sites I click each day (but I assume it is discussed on some sites I do not click).

We have 7 PCs in the house running AMD CPU/GPU -- no issues for a long time. Today, I checked all 7 to assure that they were running the latest Windows 10 update (as of today) and the latest AMD 20.2.1 driver. The GPU/CPU combinations are:

GPU/CPU, Monitor Quantity, Monitor Size

RX 5700XT 50th An/R7 3800X, 3, 1200p 4K 1200p
RX Vega 64/R7 1800X, 1, 2K
RX 580/R7 2700, 1, 4K
RX 580/R5 1600X, 1, 2K
RX 560/FX8350, 1, 1080p
APU R5 2400G, 1, 1080p
APU A10-7850K, 1, 1080p

No issues as of today. Others have written the same. We'll see what comes of this, if anything.

AMD RDNA-2 GPUs will support Ray Tracing.



In attachments, also note relatively high (not the highest) "compute" performance of RDNA-2.

The entire XBox will probably cost less than a good GPU. Thus, it will be interesting to see if AMD ray tracing (in such an inexpensive package) is actually fast enough to matter in real games (versus merely looking good in Demos).

Article describing XBox Series X

A couple rumors -- one AMD -- one Nvidia. Both are based on slightly more data than provided in previous information and rumors.




If true, there will be a couple of very powerful GPUs available this Fall (as we've expected). We'll see.

I'm assuming late-Summer/Fall for new GPUs. But, I hope to be wrong -- i.e. Something really does happen before early Summer. Until then, just expect more GPU "rumors" and "guesses" in this thread. I'll try to keep it to "new" rumors and guesses that seem credible -- with at least some new information (vs. repeats of old information).