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#4505032 - 01/26/20 04:42 PM Walmart down huge. Hack?  
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Wife got a call that her Bank credit card number was used 6 times at Walmart, each time it was denied

Looks like Walmart had a huge disruption of service Nationwide at this time as well.

Change your Walmart passwords.

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#4505039 - 01/26/20 05:42 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I never bought anything online at Walmart and never use my credit card or debit card at the store.

Always paid in cash.

I have a friend in IT, big time IT, security and stuff involving top secret clearance, and if I told you what he told me he saw in the Walmart IT building that is located in Arkansas, underground in a former ICBM missile silo, you will freak out.

#4505055 - 01/26/20 08:23 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Virtual cards are a wonderful thing. The only thing I use on the internet now.


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#4505067 - 01/26/20 09:19 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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That's what a friend of mine does.

He buys the VISA, Master Card, AMEX gift cards and that's how he pays his monthly bills online or orders from online stores.

He has checking accounts but he doesn't have debit card with any of them.

He doesn't even have an ATM card for his bank account.

When he needs cash, he goes to the bank and he goes inside.

He still writes paper checks at stores or pays in cash..

When he goes to a restaurant, he pays cash.

#4505074 - 01/26/20 09:51 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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One of my credit cards allows me to create a virtual, and one time use card for any transaction in less than a minute.

Capital One, FYI.

No annual fee. Interest is irrelevant as I use it very sparingly and pay it down to zero every month.


"I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know no way of judging of the future but by the past."
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I personally believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus and that deficit spending is sustainable forever. We really do need more Admirals in the Navy than ships and that millions of more poor immigrants will jump start the economy.

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#4505092 - 01/26/20 11:51 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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You guys know that cash will eventually go away right? It’s just a matter of time.


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#4505103 - 01/27/20 01:28 AM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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There will always be a need for cash. It's largely independent of technology and your level of education. Like every solution it has its limitations, but also a couple of unique selling points, so to speak. The idea that you need a bank account and/or a phone number to make payments sounds rather abhorrent to me. There are some who are interested in getting rid of cash, but they are hardly impartial arbiters of the truth. A cashless society is also a society to concentrates power to those in control of the electronic backbone. It is no coincidence that the discussion of eliminating cash resurged at a time of negative interest rates and the question how the central bank could prevent people from evading the negative interest by hoarding cash.

Cash is - to a degree - the economic counterpart to the second amendment.

#4505111 - 01/27/20 02:45 AM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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Cash is KING!

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#4505196 - 01/27/20 11:13 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
I never bought anything online at Walmart and never use my credit card or debit card at the store.

Always paid in cash.

I have a friend in IT, big time IT, security and stuff involving top secret clearance, and if I told you what he told me he saw in the Walmart IT building that is located in Arkansas, underground in a former ICBM missile silo, you will freak out.


I will safely asume that you are hinting about purchase behaviour tracking? If so, Amazon and Google are light years ahead in that regards. They both track you even if you do NOT purchase anything online with them or not. Saying that, I do agree your point about buying with cash as much as possible.


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#4505245 - 01/28/20 11:52 AM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted by Ssnake


Cash is - to a degree - the economic counterpart to the second amendment.




I agree with that analogy but going cashless would present national governments with MANY huge advantages so it will be extremely difficult for them to pass it up for too much longer. The immediate two advantages would be shutting down all of the coin and paper currency minting and printing facilities which would be a major cost savings and the other would be making tax evasion almost impossible since every financial transaction would now have a digital trail.

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#4505257 - 01/28/20 01:15 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Ssnake


Cash is - to a degree - the economic counterpart to the second amendment.




I agree with that analogy but going cashless would present national governments with MANY huge advantages so it will be extremely difficult for them to pass it up for too much longer. The immediate two advantages would be shutting down all of the coin and paper currency minting and printing facilities which would be a major cost savings and the other would be making tax evasion almost impossible since every financial transaction would now have a digital trail.


So you believe totalitarianism is inevitable.


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#4505259 - 01/28/20 01:17 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4


So you believe totalitarianism is inevitable.


I really hope not. This is one case where I hope I am wrong but the current trends show otherwise.


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#4505266 - 01/28/20 02:39 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
That's what a friend of mine does.

He buys the VISA, Master Card, AMEX gift cards and that's how he pays his monthly bills online or orders from online stores.

He has checking accounts but he doesn't have debit card with any of them.

He doesn't even have an ATM card for his bank account.

When he needs cash, he goes to the bank and he goes inside.

He still writes paper checks at stores or pays in cash..

When he goes to a restaurant, he pays cash.


His life sounds like a pain in the butt.

#4505269 - 01/28/20 03:02 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
That's what a friend of mine does.

He buys the VISA, Master Card, AMEX gift cards and that's how he pays his monthly bills online or orders from online stores.

He has checking accounts but he doesn't have debit card with any of them.

He doesn't even have an ATM card for his bank account.

When he needs cash, he goes to the bank and he goes inside.

He still writes paper checks at stores or pays in cash..

When he goes to a restaurant, he pays cash.


His life sounds like a pain in the butt.



LOL I was thinking the same thing. You waste all that time and for what? A slightly better feeling of being safe from being ripped off?


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#4505275 - 01/28/20 03:23 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman


His life sounds like a pain in the butt.
I don't talk to him much or hang out with him much.

Maybe once every few months we have lunch.

He is loaded with $ and he is a crap tipper, uses a calculator.

Then I have to listen to him complain about government and society.

What do you have to complain about? You are loaded!

I seen your 100 cars collection.

I only have one car.

#4505284 - 01/28/20 03:51 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I don't have credit cards anymore. I have a debit card I might use twice a year. I pay cash or write checks when I buy something. Want to stay broke? Keep buying the B.S. the credit institutions are feeding you. THEY are the ones making loads of money on their customers. Studies show that a person spends an average of 20% more on a purchase when they use a credit card. It makes you think a lot more when you're peeling bills out of your pocket to pay for something.


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#4505291 - 01/28/20 04:20 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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I have 2 credit cards and I only use them for emergency and there has been none.

I use a VISA debit card linked to my bank checking account to pay for living expenses and if there is no money in the account, I don't spend.

My credit cards are just normal cards. No % back rewards. I find that to be stupid. They always sending me email want me to sign up for rewards back program.

Look! If you spend $500, you will get a $25 gift card.

How about I save $475 of that $500 and use $25 of that $500 to buy stuff..

Also my bank checking account is just a normal one with no frills.

My sister has one that gives her change back by rounding up to next dollar.

She spent 1.25, the bank will give her 75 cents back and put it into her account.

So she is always making multiple charges to get those cents back.

She looks for stuff like avocados that were 5 for 1, she bought many of them one 20 cents transaction at a time.

#4505304 - 01/28/20 05:33 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman


His life sounds like a pain in the butt.


Sounds like everyone of my father's generation and every generation before him. For that matter, sounds like my first 25 years.


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#4505325 - 01/28/20 08:18 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: TerribleTwo]  
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He is very old school.

He has the slowest internet speed, as long as he can check his email, that's what matters..

He doesn't stream or download any music or movies

He won't shop online or do his banking online.

He definitely will not deal with online dating.

He has a cell phone that his sister gave him and I think it's either a very early iPhone or Droid.

No texting, chatting, messaging,

He is still using it.

#4505335 - 01/28/20 09:29 PM Re: Walmart down huge. Hack? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
He is very old school.

He has the slowest internet speed, as long as he can check his email, that's what matters..

He doesn't stream or download any music or movies

He won't shop online or do his banking online.

He definitely will not deal with online dating.

He has a cell phone that his sister gave him and I think it's either a very early iPhone or Droid.

No texting, chatting, messaging,

He is still using it.


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