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#4504568 - 01/22/20 11:50 AM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Still not watching trailers and couldn’t care less about others’ opinions. I think for myself, I’ll form my own, good or bad. wink



I agree with this philosophy with the caveat that I also keep tabs on the viewer ratings for my favorite show because if the ratings suck then it most likely means the show that I really love will be cancelled. So in that specific case I DO care what the opinion of others are.


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#4504877 - 01/24/20 03:29 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Excellent first episode IMO! This show took storytelling to a new level for ST. The only disappointing part is waiting until next week for more! The show has a very personal story going on as well as some major events to cover. The previews at the end looked awesome.
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#4504887 - 01/24/20 05:22 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Was very good, will be waiting each week for each new episode!

(and I always skip the previews smile )

#4504891 - 01/24/20 05:31 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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I hear ya, but they got me this time. LOL


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#4504945 - 01/25/20 08:37 AM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
This video pretty much sums up my expectations for "Picard" as well. And despite the title, it isn't all just the modern political tie ins either. It's the destruction of a beloved character.



https://youtu.be/iYtyQAXkUkc


The point about writers in general being lazy and spending their time destroying old franchises vs being truly creative/constructive (whether within or without a previously designed story universe) is spot on. It is the nutshell of my complaint about the new Star Wars, the last few movies in the MCU, etc.

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#4504949 - 01/25/20 10:38 AM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Not really a Star Trek fan but it was enjoyable enough.

At least Simon Pegg can't show up and ruin this one.


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#4505680 - 01/31/20 05:55 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Episode two keeps up the great work.

I love the universe building it does and fleshing out the storyline.

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Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
Episode two keeps up the great work.

I love the universe building it does and fleshing out the storyline.



CBS renewed it for a second season very quickly so the execs obviously loved what they saw. I'll be starting the series soon myself.


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#4505682 - 01/31/20 06:00 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
CBS renewed it for a second season very quickly so the execs obviously loved what they saw. I'll be starting the series soon myself.


Yeah, being able to sell the rights off the bat to Amazon Prime probably recouperated alot of the production cost off at once, making it less of a risk to order the next season.

#4505772 - 02/01/20 12:34 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Watched episode one on YouTube.

It was good to see Picard again, and Data as well. But it seems they could have done more to "de-age" Data, he didn't look right.

It was entertaining but I didn't really feel like I was watching Star Trek other than Picard being in it and mentions of The Federation.

I want to see the rest of the story to see how it plays out but I'm not compelled to enough to pay for the privilege, so once all the episodes are released I'll get a free week of (or pay for a month of) service and binge watch it.

And did the boyfriend in "daughters" apartment really say "cool" and "dude"? Trek has never in the past used dated colloquial phrases, they've made it a point to not understand them (A leak? I'm not detecting a leak) hundreds of years past their common usage today. Little things like this are annoying. As were the solar panels on the Golden Gate Bridge. A civilization that has harnessed practically unlimited power that can drive starships at billions of miles per hour has no need for solar panels. But it's the PC thing to do.

And the people who were responsible for the opening music for "Enterprise", the ones who were castigated to no end for that choice, must be feeling pretty smug when they hear the opening music to Picard. UGH.


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#4505813 - 02/01/20 05:41 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Watched the first one last week, will watch the next one tonight... I'm not a massive Star Trek fan, but have to say, the first one hooked me straight away. I really enjoyed it!

#4505869 - 02/02/20 08:53 AM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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That seems to be the thing right now, make Star Wars for non-Star Wars fans, Star Trek for non-Star Trek fans . . . oh well.

Still have DS9 on DVD . . .

#4505896 - 02/02/20 04:11 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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How is this not Star Trek for Star Trek fans?

I think you confuse the masses of star Trek fans with the extremely vocal ultra-minority which complains about everything under the moon. They do *NOT* represent Trek Fans.

#4505924 - 02/02/20 10:07 PM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Oh, please. All of the references made to earlier Star Trek episodes should tell you this was made for fans of the show. I'm a Star Trek fan. This was very good.


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Originally Posted by Pooch
Oh, please. All of the references made to earlier Star Trek episodes should tell you this was made for fans of the show. I'm a Star Trek fan. This was very good.



Oh please, just referencing events that happened earlier in the series doesn't automatically make it "Star Trek".

I remain to be convinced. It may turn out okay but I doubt that it will ever be what I would have preferred in advancing the Trek storyline.*

It has Trek characters, Trek references, Trek technology etc. but so far it doesn't look or sound like "Traditional Star Trek". To some I suppose that is the point, that is what draws them to this. But not to me.


* I would rather have seen a new starship with new capabilities that make the galaxy a slightly smaller place, a few new aliens but don't ignore the old adversaries either. Captained by Geordi maybe? Picard could be a top admiral, Riker an older captain or vice admiral, and maybe not have central parts but just occasional scenes. Definitely have Worf. A few from Voyager or Deep Space 9 occasionally. Fill out the main cast with new characters. But that's just me.


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4

It has Trek characters, Trek references, Trek technology etc. but so far it doesn't look or sound like "Traditional Star Trek". To some I suppose that is the point, that is what draws them to this. But not to me.


"Traditional Star Trek" only existed for 2 seasons in the 60s. Nothing since has been "traditional Star trek". They had to #%&*$# Gerry to get TNG to be a halfway decent show. DS9 became a great show to ditching most things from TNG. Each show has been different.

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Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
Originally Posted by F4UDash4

It has Trek characters, Trek references, Trek technology etc. but so far it doesn't look or sound like "Traditional Star Trek". To some I suppose that is the point, that is what draws them to this. But not to me.


"Traditional Star Trek" only existed for 2 seasons in the 60s. Nothing since has been "traditional Star trek". They had to #%&*$# Gerry to get TNG to be a halfway decent show. DS9 became a great show to ditching most things from TNG. Each show has been different.




Each series has been different in it's own way without throwing away the fundamental nature of Trek. Until now.

"Because it was no longer Starfleet! Starfleet had slunk from its duties... the decision to abandon those people we had sworn to save was not just dishonorable, it was downright criminal!" - Picard

Roddenberry's vision was buried with that line. There have been "cracks" shown in Starfleet before, but that statement was an absolute condemnation of the entire organization.


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Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog


"Traditional Star Trek" only existed for 2 seasons in the 60s. Nothing since has been "traditional Star trek". They had to #%&*$# Gerry to get TNG to be a halfway decent show. DS9 became a great show to ditching most things from TNG. Each show has been different.




ST: TOS ran for 3 seasons.


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#4506336 - 02/06/20 12:39 AM Re: Make it so: a ST Picard series! [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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In the "Star Trek" future one would also assume that the elderly would be "rejuvenated" so that they don't look like 100 year-old bald fossils. After all, "Bones" could diagnose and cure most any injury with his hand-held medical instruments. I for one would like to see some young blood on the screen, male or female, no matter. But please, retire the old farts.

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Star Trek Discovery is excellent and has a new batch of actors.


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