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#4504483 - 01/21/20 08:21 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted by Trooper117
I'm an ageing holdout... I will never own or want to drive an automatic.


I meant actually driving a vehicle vs it being automated.

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#4504484 - 01/21/20 08:23 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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#4504488 - 01/21/20 09:03 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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How would people be able to use their smartphones for texting and browsing the net if they have to have one hand occupied using a stick shift?



The horror....the horror...

Well, you simply have your right hand on the stick, left hand to text, your feet for the pedals, and knees for the wheel.
Quite simple really. behindcouch

#4504496 - 01/21/20 10:08 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: Arthonon]  
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Originally Posted by Arthonon
Originally Posted by BlueHeron
Love driving a manual, especially in the snow. I find with automatic, the disconnect between me and the road is jarring. I can never get used to the fraction-of-a-second delay while the transmission "thinks" about what to do next.

One of the things I like about the auto in my Mustang is that I can shift with the paddles. It has two modes, Drive and Sport, and both can be fully automatic, or with Sport, you can make it manual only, so it won't shift until you tell it to. Even with in Drive mode, you can control the shifting temporarily, and that's helpful to get around the transmission having to "think." If I'm driving down the highway and a car is going slow and I want to downshift and go around, just a few flicks on the downshift paddle and I've dropped a few gears and can get right around them. You don't have to punch the throttle and wait for the transmission to figure out it needs to downshift (although in sport mode, it's pretty quick at figuring that out).


But the paddle shifters on an automatic are mostly for show. It is still an automatic. But that said, yes the paddle shifts are fun in that you can pretend it is a Formula 1 shift system.


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#4504499 - 01/21/20 10:16 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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#4504500 - 01/21/20 10:19 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Manual all the way. The box on my Spitfire doesn't even have syncro on first gear!


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#4504501 - 01/21/20 10:29 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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#4504503 - 01/21/20 10:54 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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I've had stick shift since I was 16, with a few exceptions. My current ride is an automatic. Just isn't the same. My next one will be back to a manual.


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#4504505 - 01/21/20 11:05 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
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Originally Posted by BlueHeron
Love driving a manual, especially in the snow. I find with automatic, the disconnect between me and the road is jarring. I can never get used to the fraction-of-a-second delay while the transmission "thinks" about what to do next.

One of the things I like about the auto in my Mustang is that I can shift with the paddles. It has two modes, Drive and Sport, and both can be fully automatic, or with Sport, you can make it manual only, so it won't shift until you tell it to. Even with in Drive mode, you can control the shifting temporarily, and that's helpful to get around the transmission having to "think." If I'm driving down the highway and a car is going slow and I want to downshift and go around, just a few flicks on the downshift paddle and I've dropped a few gears and can get right around them. You don't have to punch the throttle and wait for the transmission to figure out it needs to downshift (although in sport mode, it's pretty quick at figuring that out).


But the paddle shifters on an automatic are mostly for show. It is still an automatic. But that said, yes the paddle shifts are fun in that you can pretend it is a Formula 1 shift system.

It's not using a clutch, but it does give immediate shift control. If I'm cruising in 10th gear and want to pick up some speed, I can manually downshift to 6th or 7th using the paddles about as quickly as downshifting a manual and it has the same result.


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#4504508 - 01/21/20 11:12 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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My father made sure we all knew how to drive a manual and parallel park before he send us to the driver's license office for our written and driving test.

Parallel parking used to be required to get your driver licence. Don't know if it still is.

First vehicle was a m'cycle but the family car was an auto '66 Chev. At the same time had a summer job where I had to drive an old Jeep which had a reverse H standard.

Generally switched back and forth between standard and auto with each vehicle I owned, the last 2 being standards. Found the 'autos' made me a lazy driver.


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#4504510 - 01/21/20 11:36 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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My last automatic was over 10 years ago, I’ve had 2 5-speed pickups and a 5-speed Jeep since then, and my current Jeep is a 6-speed. The 5-speed Jeep is in the middle of a very slow rebuild from the ground up and will be getting an automatic because they’re better in the mud.

I avoid taking the interstate anywhere whenever possible, it’s much more fun to take the back roads and give the gears a workout. The 6-speed and 4.0l in-line 6 is a really nice combination.


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#4504511 - 01/21/20 11:37 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Automatics get a bit more interesting when they're modified for performance, eliminating the soft, lazy factory shifting regime that's meant to please soy boys and soccer moms.

#4504513 - 01/21/20 11:46 PM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: Arthonon]  
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Originally Posted by Arthonon
Originally Posted by oldgrognard
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Originally Posted by BlueHeron
Love driving a manual, especially in the snow. I find with automatic, the disconnect between me and the road is jarring. I can never get used to the fraction-of-a-second delay while the transmission "thinks" about what to do next.

One of the things I like about the auto in my Mustang is that I can shift with the paddles. It has two modes, Drive and Sport, and both can be fully automatic, or with Sport, you can make it manual only, so it won't shift until you tell it to. Even with in Drive mode, you can control the shifting temporarily, and that's helpful to get around the transmission having to "think." If I'm driving down the highway and a car is going slow and I want to downshift and go around, just a few flicks on the downshift paddle and I've dropped a few gears and can get right around them. You don't have to punch the throttle and wait for the transmission to figure out it needs to downshift (although in sport mode, it's pretty quick at figuring that out).


But the paddle shifters on an automatic are mostly for show. It is still an automatic. But that said, yes the paddle shifts are fun in that you can pretend it is a Formula 1 shift system.

It's not using a clutch, but it does give immediate shift control. If I'm cruising in 10th gear and want to pick up some speed, I can manually downshift to 6th or 7th using the paddles about as quickly as downshifting a manual and it has the same result.


Can you immediately shift into neutral ?


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#4504515 - 01/22/20 12:10 AM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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My Saab Aero Sport was auto and it had shift buttons mounted on the wheel. Very inconvenient and awkward to use. They were the 2 least used buttons in the car.

Also,I prefer a traditional auto,I don't go in for these new-fangled dual transmission things.

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#4504519 - 01/22/20 12:47 AM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
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Originally Posted by BlueHeron
Love driving a manual, especially in the snow. I find with automatic, the disconnect between me and the road is jarring. I can never get used to the fraction-of-a-second delay while the transmission "thinks" about what to do next.

One of the things I like about the auto in my Mustang is that I can shift with the paddles. It has two modes, Drive and Sport, and both can be fully automatic, or with Sport, you can make it manual only, so it won't shift until you tell it to. Even with in Drive mode, you can control the shifting temporarily, and that's helpful to get around the transmission having to "think." If I'm driving down the highway and a car is going slow and I want to downshift and go around, just a few flicks on the downshift paddle and I've dropped a few gears and can get right around them. You don't have to punch the throttle and wait for the transmission to figure out it needs to downshift (although in sport mode, it's pretty quick at figuring that out).


But the paddle shifters on an automatic are mostly for show. It is still an automatic. But that said, yes the paddle shifts are fun in that you can pretend it is a Formula 1 shift system.

It's not using a clutch, but it does give immediate shift control. If I'm cruising in 10th gear and want to pick up some speed, I can manually downshift to 6th or 7th using the paddles about as quickly as downshifting a manual and it has the same result.


Can you immediately shift into neutral ?

Yes and no - the paddles don't support it, but you can push the console shifter forward and it will stop at neutral. It's not the same as true manual, but I would say that the paddles are for more than show. DCTs often allow for pulling both paddles and going into neutral that way, and it might be helpful if this auto had it, but again, I think the paddles can be very useful.


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#4504520 - 01/22/20 12:48 AM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Paddles would be fun when just getting on it accelerating, but just don’t appeal to me. I don’t think I’d ever use them. It’s the clutch and action of shifting that’s satusfying and gives a feeling of more control in all aspects of driving, not just accelerating. I still feel like my right hand and left foot should be doing something. LOL


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#4504521 - 01/22/20 12:58 AM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Paddles would be fun when just getting on it accelerating, but just don’t appeal to me. I don’t think I’d ever use them. It’s the clutch and action of shifting that’s satusfying and gives a feeling of more control in all aspects of driving, not just accelerating. I still feel like my right hand and left foot should be doing something. LOL


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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Paddles would be fun when just getting on it accelerating, but just don’t appeal to me. I don’t think I’d ever use them. It’s the clutch and action of shifting that’s satusfying and gives a feeling of more control in all aspects of driving, not just accelerating. I still feel like my right hand and left foot should be doing something. LOL

Yeah, my left foot went for a phantom clutch for a while after getting it. It also took me a while to think of it differently than just any other auto and start using the paddles. Again, it's not the same as a true manual, but it does offer some of the same control under different circumstances. Driving on a twisty road can be fun using the paddles, as you're downshifting while braking, then upshifting exiting the corner, etc.


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#4504527 - 01/22/20 01:34 AM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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How would people be able to use their smartphones for texting and browsing the net if they have to have one hand occupied using a stick shift?



The horror....the horror...


Believe me, it is not a problem for europeans.

And to answer the question, I still have a manual gearbox with my Celica (G)TS, and I've changed my daily car with an automatic recently, it is not I absolutely wanted an automatic, but because of what manufacturers offer nowadays in Europe.

#4504528 - 01/22/20 01:36 AM Re: Anyone still driving a manual transmission car [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Parallel parking used to be required to get your driver licence. Don't know if it still is.


It was for me too.

Dad picked a busy street in the neighborhood next to an apartment complex where the residents parallel parked their cars on the streets adjacent the different sides of the complex to teach me how to parallel park

So here I was trying to parallel park and it's a busy streets and there are cars coming up behind me and I am in a panic.

There are 2 lanes so they can go around me on the left lane but at same time I had to make sure it was safe for me to back up and turn without hitting anything behind me and beside me.

I was 14 years old and you can imagine the panic I was in.

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