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#4504092 - 01/17/20 09:05 PM 5+ year old Dell crashed; need replacement  
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OK fellow gamers, computer fried. It's at a computer hospital now, but the prognosis is not good.

Please provide some suggestions for replacement. Gaming, simulations mostly, WEB surfing, email, and some financial stuff.

What do you suggest?

Thanks!

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#4504127 - 01/18/20 04:22 AM Re: 5+ year old Dell crashed; need replacement [Re: Dunolde]  
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any specific games and which viewing device you use? Monitor 4K, 1080P or VR if yes which headset?

At least an intel 9600K or 9700K and maybe a 1080 vid card minimum if on a monitor 1080P

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#4504145 - 01/18/20 10:07 AM Re: 5+ year old Dell crashed; need replacement [Re: Dunolde]  
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And will it be an DIY or an complete system from the shelf?
a desktop, notebook, laptop?
Budget?
Your country?

#4504163 - 01/18/20 01:07 PM Re: 5+ year old Dell crashed; need replacement [Re: Dunolde]  
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Echo the above questions -- plus a short list of favorite games.

In general, a modest 4 core/8 thread CPU (AMD or Intel) will play the games. Desired graphics realism and monitor resolution will impact memory and GPU. GPUs can be expensive. Home Made vs Off the Shelf PCs become cost/performance trade offs -- providing one knows how to assemble a Home Made and how to pick the parts.


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#4504197 - 01/18/20 08:44 PM Re: 5+ year old Dell crashed; need replacement [Re: Dunolde]  
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OK, I like FPS, space sims (NOT ED), more like Evochron, half-life series, fallout, prey, some flight sims

I am interested intrigued by VR (with flightsims) but think the requirements are still too steep. The Alienware systems are looking pretty good. I'm

not tech-savvy enough to build a system and have always had Dell machines and never been disappointed .

So, make some suggestions as to what to look into, or ask for more info. And, thanks for the help!

#4504469 - 01/21/20 07:09 PM Re: 5+ year old Dell crashed; need replacement [Re: Dunolde]  
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A verbose, rambling answer FWIW:

Having seen the games you like, I have some vague ideas.

The best pre-built PC, is not a specialty of mine. So, FWIW, some generalities that might help one choose among pre-built PCs. I’m an AMD fan – but, I’ll try to be objective smile

For gaming above 1080p using a 1440p (2K) or 2160p (4K) monitor, the CPU is not the bottleneck because both AMD and Intel perform similarly. In that case, up to date AMD CPUs generally perform equally or better than Intel for the money – assuming similar base clock speeds and core counts. If gaming at 1080p, the fastest Intel CPUs give slightly higher FPS (but its only “measurable” not “visible”). Moreover, I’ve noticed that pre-built AMD powered PCs are cheaper than similarly performing Intel powered PCs in most cases (but, I don’t spend a lot of time looking at pre-built).

So, AMD CPU for performance and value. However, the pre-built you like best might be Intel. No big deal – both are good.

For FPS at 1080p, AMD and Nvidia provide good GPUs. Buy based on price/performance. Above 1080p, FPS fans would want one of the more expensive Nvidia GPUs – $500 to over $1000.

These days, 16GB of DDR4 PC memory for gaming. That’s up from just 8GB not so long ago. 32GB is not needed – only a couple games even make us of it.

You did not mention monitor. I think the monitor is a big deal when figuring out a cost effective gaming system. I bought a 43” 4K television to use as a gaming monitor. Cost only about $280 at the time. I have a costly piece of hardware that accurately measures color reproduction – its virtually perfect on that inexpensive 4K LED TV. Downside is maximum 60 fps and only 1000/1 native contrast. Still, I’m happy with it versus a smaller gaming monitor – I want resolution, excellent color, and an eye filling screen. These days an excellent QLED 43 inch TV can be had for around $600 more or less depending on sales – gives 120FPS with a high end GPU. I’m waiting for the “holy grail” – a 43” OLED 4K or 8K TV (perfect native contrast and color) – no OLED TV screens below 49” yet. I think if one is willing to spend over $500 on a GPU they should spend over $500 on a large screen 4K monitor or TV (personal preference).

Tom’s hardware has a few articles on how to pick out one’s next gaming machine. Also, if you come across a pre-built you might like -- Google it.


Sapphire Pulse RX7900XTX, 3 monitors = 23P (1080p) + SAMSUNG 32" Odyssey Neo G7 1000R curve (4K/2160p) + 23P (1080p), AMD R9-7950X (ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420), 64GB RAM@6.0GHz, Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER MB, (4x M.2 SSD + 2xSSD + 2xHD) = ~52TB storage, EVGA 1600W PSU, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower, ASUS RT-AX89X 6000Mbps WiFi router, VKB Gladiator WW2 Stick, Pedals, G.Skill RGB KB, AORUS Thunder M7 Mouse, W11 Pro

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