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#4504003 - 01/17/20 05:16 AM Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc  
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I wasn't going to do a build thread for this, just a couple of progress and finished shots when she was done. She was meant to be a quick weekender build but then i ran into decal issues and thus my plan failed. Weirdly enough she started out as a 1/72 MK I Spit that my son bought me for christmas. My daughter also had gotten me a C47 1/72 kit so we did a trip to the model shop (after i explained 1/72 is too small for my fumbling fingers and aging eyes) and exchanged them. Thus the 1/72 Spit I transformed into a 1/48 Spit XIVc, and went from the mighty Merlin to a Griffon engined variant, the C denotes the wing type.

Apparently there is a lot wrong with this kit regards shape, a poorly shaped nose, the too deep fuselage, the spine is incorrect, the tail is wrong and even the wings are too thick. There are a few resin kits that address these issues but i really wasn't interested in all of that, she looks like a Spit to me and i wasn't willing to throw a ton of money at a 29 dollar kit...or so i thought. More on that later. I didn't take any actual build shots, the cockpit was very basic and everything went together fairly neatly excepting one wing join which i sanded and worked as much as i dared without losing detail so this build starts with the plane at the prime stage.

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I already had four of the colours i needed for this build in Tamiya on the shelf so ventured away from Vallejo for the main part.XF71/ XF81/82/83. Raf Cockpit Green, Raf Green, Raf Ocean Grey, Raf Sea Grey and then just needed XF21, Raf Sky Green for the prop spinner. Vallejo primed and pre shaded, i knocked out the prop while i was waiting for the wings to glue pre prime.

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Love that shape, she is easily the sleekest and nicest looking of all of the planes i have built so far. Next up was a top coat of the Ocean grey with a lower of Sea grey. I marked out the green camo with blutac and tape, a lot of which would be hidden under the decals so i wasn't too fussy.

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Raf green sprayed followed by the yellow leading edges and then clear coating in prep for the decals.

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From here i placed a wing roundel first to see how the decals were. She went down fine so i moved onto one of the top wing invasion stripes. These would not settle well and did not line up with the gun ports neatly plus they had overhanging small clear sections. I persisted for about half an hour and then gave up and decided to paint them. The main reason why i didn't want to paint initially is because the fuselage stripes incorporate the letters and roundel which i would have to finely cut out to keep the markings consistent. I thought maybe i can get away with painted wings and a decalled fuselage...this all went out the window very soon anyway as you shall see. Since i was spraying i then tossed up about how to imitate this sort of a field painted look...

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but then came across this Tempest ...


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So i decided on some clean stripes. I wasn't real sure how i was going to imitate the rough ones without making a mess of it anyway. Maybe a future project.

These are the decals. I've placed the wing stripe decal that didn't want to play the game back on it's sheet as well as the undercarriage door decal that was overhanging. You can see my dilemma with the fuselage stripes incorporating the roundel, numerals and letters.

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At this stage i started thinking about a decal kit, the cheapest one i could find sans stripes was about the same price as the kit, and had to come from England. While i mulled this over i moved on with the stripes, these are all mark 1 eyeball.

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The black added

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and the decal that sealed the deal for me having to get a new set. The tape was only just resting on it but that was enough to destroy it, my bad. It was also only at this stage that i realised there was still a thin film of clear on the decal that needed to be removed. I had not seen this since i was a kid, funny how things can jog a memory.

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and the final stripe, the thinner rear sky coloured stripe.

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Now i'm waiting for my decals to come from England (Hannats) and i shelled out the extra for tracking, which puts them at the price of the kit plus 16 dollarydoos, so 46 in total. Lol. Anyway, what are you gonna do, i am definitely not painting circles again unless i have proper masking kits and those things cost as well. So i'm twiddling my thumbs waiting for some pommy bugger to hurry up and pack my order from TWO DAYS ago you ruddy English git, pull ya finger out mate biggrin


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#4504015 - 01/17/20 09:30 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Now you have mentioned it, it does look rather pudgy doesn't it?
Did you come to realise this with just your expert eye or have some data to compare it with?


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#4504045 - 01/17/20 01:47 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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I thought the nose looked off and that the rear glass section looked a tad short so i looked up some builds and kit reviews and found out about the rest smile Weirdly enough, they supply a really nice set of tyres, flattened and they even have a slight tyre bulge on the lower sections. The rims are also wrong as in a review they are meant to be 3 spoke but are the 4 spoke version. Maybe it's why she was the cheapest 1/48 kit in the shop! Here's some other things picked out from around the net..


the sidewalls of the underwing oil cooler housings are depicted at 90° to the wing, not perpendicular to the ground as they should be.

Academy has added an extra "step" to the area behind and below the sliding section of the canopy on the Spitfire XIVc kit. This step does not appear on the real aircraft. The fixed glasshouse area behind the canopy is therefore noticeably short, and the relationship between shapes in this area looks odd.

only the narrow chord rudder is supplied.

the profile of the propeller blades is poor

"fishtail" exhausts are not included, although these were commonly seen on the Spitfire XIV

the four-spoke wheels supplied were more commonly seen on earlier Spitfire variants (eg Mk. VIII/IX). The Spitfire XIV was typically equipped with three-spoke wheels.

wing cannon bulges are somewhat overscale due to the gimmicky inclusion of cannon in the bays.

The cockpit upper sidewalls are totally devoid of detail. This is surprising, as the remainder of the cockpit is really very good.


Here's a build with a bunch of fixes although it's a clipped wing version it's still the same base kit

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Still, she looks ok overall as an oob build and has made me want to do a couple of different versions of the mighty Spit.


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#4504088 - 01/17/20 08:37 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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but then came across this Tempest …


Ajay, that is a photo of a Typhoon IB. It is one of 400 built by Gloster at Hucclecote.

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There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4504121 - 01/18/20 02:11 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Lol obviously, i'm an idiot biggrin It must be because i want to build one so bad!


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#4504126 - 01/18/20 03:41 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Am I the only one who hates to see those long gun shrouds ?


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#4504144 - 01/18/20 09:54 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Am I the only one who hates to see those long gun shrouds ?


Obviously not as they were dropped from the next evolution of the type, the Tempest.

Gave lots of opportunities for ribald photographs of chaps sitting astride them with saucy grins on their faces though!


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#4504146 - 01/18/20 10:17 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Originally Posted by Ajay
Lol obviously, i'm an idiot biggrin It must be because i want to build one so bad!


Naw you ain't but will let it pass because of your superb artistic talent. biggrin Build a Typhoon or Tempest?

BD, 100 Tempests had stubby cannon covers for their Hispano MK IIs. The shorter barrelled MK V didn't have covers.


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There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4504213 - 01/19/20 10:27 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Looking good Ajay. You’ve obviously mastered airbrushing!


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#4505133 - 01/27/20 12:42 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Getting there Goon, still learning every build smile

10 days and still waiting on my decals so i decided to have a crack at a base. I picked up a sheet of grass at the model shop..i didn't realise there was so many options so selected what they called Autumn, it was the only one in stock that wasn't just one colour and had a bit of variety to it. A piece of wood from an old bed frame base that i cut into a usable size and hoped i could use the dirt pigments i had to use as...well, dirt. The wood itself i ummed and ahhed about for a bit and ended up with flat black as i feel it keeps it nice and neutral. I decided on a rectangle over a circle or square as it just seems more pleasing to my eye.

If anyone is interested, that cheap deodorant and lighter was for the massive huntsman spider i had to battle earlier. I don't like killing huntsman but when they are as big as my hand and getting up on my desk, that's tantamount to a declaration of war.


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I had a rough idea of of what i wanted, a small section of angled dirt at one end that faded into the grass. I couldn't just plonk the dirt down on top of the grass as it needed to be slightly lower to look at least half credible..but i wasn't sure how to remove or lower the grass. After a bit of staring and poking at it with a blade i had a moment of enlightenment and grabbed our electric lint remover from the kitchen cupboard. If you don't have one of these, i highly recommend it, cheap and one of those rare items that actually does what it says and does it well. A few passes over the area with a bit of pressure and voila...

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I saved the sawdust when sawing the base and added a couple of pinchs of the lighter pigment to use for the base of the dirt, to add some texture and give me another colour

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At this stage my brain let me down for a while. I had some pva glue and water mixed up for the dirt ..and then couldn't work out how to apply it without making a mess. First off i used an old spray and wipe bottle with a cap fuel of glue and water poured in but the spray pattern was too chunky and large. I sat there for a full minute wondering..what sort of magical device can i use that will make a nice fine consistent mist. If only i had an airbrush.... I swear dementia is creeping in sometimes. The trimmed grass area got a mist of glue and water and then the sawdust/pigmentt mix was laid down, another glue mist then some random pigment followed by another light glue and pigment.

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Obviously the grass itself isn't glued to the base yet, i'll let it sit and dry overnight then trim it up and see how it looks. I did also have a quick look around for some extras to add like some fuel drums, ammo boxes or the like but didn't find anything locally in 1/48 except Luftwaffe stuff. I don't want it all cluttery though, i prefer to keep it fairly minimal and I'm definitely not adding figures, my figures look terrible so that's out the window smile


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#4505150 - 01/27/20 03:44 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Looking good Ajay. thumbsup

Have you looked at model RRing? They have some good stuff for landscaping.





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The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
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#4505190 - 01/27/20 10:32 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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This is so simple, yet elegant. Looks the deal.

Maybe an idea to make two "tracks", where the grass has been bent down by the wheels as the aircraft rolled to a stop.

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Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
This is so simple, yet elegant. Looks the deal.

Maybe an idea to make two "tracks", where the grass has been bent down by the wheels as the aircraft rolled to a stop.


Even tho the a/c has a new paint job it looks like a derelict > no wheels. wink


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4505872 - 02/02/20 10:49 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Decals f i n a l l y turned up. The markings are now incorrect as i would have to delete the invasion to make it all historical. The left wing roundel nearly hid the old ruined roundel, if you look closely you can see the edge of it just peeping through.

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After that it was attaching a few small pieces and sorting the canopy glass, losing the fuel cap to the carpet and making another one out of sprue, then immediately after that...losing the canopy mirror to the same carpet and finding it after a 25 minute deep dive. Weathering was a very light all over oil wash with some tamiya soot for the exhausts and vallejo dust pigments for the wheels and wheel wells. The side decals didn't seem to like either the clear or the oil wash or maybe i didn't lay enough clear and the oil got to it in sections. Also, weirdly, the top wing roundels both started to fall apart in the same place, the small dot sections. As soon as i noticed it happening with the second roundel i pulled up on it.. I forgot to add some seatbelts to this build, i never even realised until i was sorting my pics that the seat was bare, dude better have grab handles. Lastly, i managed to push one of the wing lamps into the wing itself so she has a slight rattle and ...a hole in her left wing.


Glamour shots. i also finally upgraded my phone to a Samsung S10. She seems to take slightly nicer pictures.


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Size comparison to the 190 A8 and 109 F1


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#4505873 - 02/02/20 11:06 AM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Egg-cellent!!!


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#4505890 - 02/02/20 02:21 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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Another cracker. I love the base, very effective grass and the wheel tracks are ace.


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#4505893 - 02/02/20 02:33 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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As usual, an excellent job.

As the invasion stripes are factory applied, the serial number would show but if field applied there would a rectangle around the serial number that would show the camouflage colour or be partially hidden by the colour of the stripe.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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Yet another example of skills and experience that have me shouting at the computer in disbelief.

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#4505904 - 02/02/20 06:09 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: Ajay]  
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You could probably mount Goon's Vulcan under the wing as a superweapon! j/k

Really nice.


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#4505916 - 02/02/20 08:17 PM Re: Weekend build that isn't, Spit XIVc [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Very, very nice! Both the model and the base, excellent combination.

Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
Even tho the a/c has a new paint job it looks like a derelict > no wheels. wink


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