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#4483008 - 07/16/19 04:07 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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I've been chatting with thealx about the issues he raised, which won't be disclosed here.

However, it means that I'm going to pay for Github pro, and make the repo private. I don't mind paying, as it's only $7 per month, or $84 per year. I'll keep it monthly for now, then if there's going to be continued development work, we can dicuss paying for it for a year. And if I ever get to the point of not wanting to be the admin anymore, I'll arrange handing over to someone else.

The Pro account will also give us more control over access to the code as well, so it's probably for the best. Everyone that's using the repo at the moment is on as a collaborator, so access shouldn't change.

#4483014 - 07/16/19 05:56 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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I've now made the repo private. Should I restore the original licence, or add some other licence that make it non-shareable?


Edit: Actually, I just re-read the licence and realised it's mainly the same as the original, so I'll leave it as it is. I had in my head that I'd made it a GPL licence.

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#4483628 - 07/21/19 06:02 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Does anyone know who the http://eech.robfox.net/utils.html website is maintained by? It would be nice if he would make the source code available for his utilities, maybe one of us could add in some features and upgrade the editor tools.

#4483705 - 07/22/19 12:20 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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I tried a Whois search on the site and it is still a live site (registered to 2021) but all personal details were replaced by "REDACTED FOR PRIVACY".

Guess he doesn't want people contacting him.

I seem to remember a guy called Rob on this forum a while ago putting up links to a terrain editor. I'll have a look and see if I can find him.

Cheers,

Andy


Andy's simpit: http://www.simpit.me.uk
#4483710 - 07/22/19 12:34 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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I might dig through my emails. I seem to remember having contact with them a while ago, but I'll not put their details on here. If I can get in touch about the source code, I'll let you know. I remember being in touch with someone about a GWUT editor, and got the source code, but I can't remember if it's the same person.

I think Sockzien used the terrain and map editors last to make the Poland map, so they might know.

#4483711 - 07/22/19 12:34 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Back Again,

I found a copy of Robfox's BED utility that I'd downloaded years ago and unzipped it. In the introduction were comments on how it came about. It seems that user CEP}|{ATH contacted him about using it and he allowed it. It intro was written by Starshoy who I'm pretty sure is still a member of the forum.

It may be worthwhile trying to contact Starshoy and see if he has any contact details for Robfox.

Cheers,

Andy


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#4503876 - 01/15/20 04:00 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Please may I have access to the source code

I have created a GitHub user account - name: @GlynD02

I have read and agree to the terms and conditions of the EECH licence
at http://eechcentral.SimHQ.com/index.php?title=EECH_License

Reason: I would like to have a look at exporting another set of MFDs and maybe even a gunners sight on seperate monitors

#4503890 - 01/15/20 07:15 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: GlynD]  
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Done. You should get an invite link.

#4503923 - 01/16/20 11:19 AM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Thanks Messyhead - got the link and accepted

Cheers
Glyn

#4514211 - 04/02/20 08:22 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Hi, I see EECH is still alive, which is great. Is it still on DX7, or has anyone managed to upgrade to 9 at least ? I now have some spare time, and could have another look at getting the graphics engine updated to DX9 or even 11/12 if possible, or actually, maybe Vulkan would be a better choice now.
Do you mind sharing access to the current version please ?
I agree to the license @ http://eechcentral.SimHQ.com/index.php?title=EECH_License

EDIT: I also want to add direct support for Tobii EyeX, as I use it instead of TrackIR, and it's awesome.

Cheers,
Tomasz

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#4514215 - 04/02/20 08:34 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: D4rthCoffee]  
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Originally Posted by D4rthCoffee
Hi, I see EECH is still alive, which is great. Is it still on DX7, or has anyone managed to upgrade to 9 at least ? I now have some spare time, and could have another look at getting the graphics engine updated to DX9 or even 11/12 if possible, or actually, maybe Vulkan would be a better choice now.
Do you mind sharing access to the current version please ?
I agree to the license @ http://eechcentral.SimHQ.com/index.php?title=EECH_License

EDIT: I also want to add direct support for Tobii EyeX, as I use it instead of TrackIR, and it's awesome.

Cheers,
Tomasz


Hi. Getting the graphics updated is still one of the biggest goals. Some of it was moved to D3D9, but it still uses DirectX7. I take it that's an area of expertise of yours?

What's your github username and I'll send an invite?

#4514216 - 04/02/20 08:36 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Czesc? smile
Now eech is in dx9 but there are no graphical improvements, there had no one to implement.More info you get from others.

#4514218 - 04/02/20 08:47 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: BANITA]  
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Originally Posted by BANITA
Czesc? smile
Now eech is in dx9 but there are no graphical improvements, there had no one to implement.More info you get from others.


I didn't think it moved to DX9 fully, I thought it was Direct Draw 9 or D3d9? I might be mistaken, I'd have to look again at the 1.16 release notes.

#4514220 - 04/02/20 08:48 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: D4rthCoffee]  
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Originally Posted by D4rthCoffee
Hi, I see EECH is still alive


Hey. Rendering code uses Direct3D9 functions, but most scenes/surfaces draw and translation applied by custom C functions.

FYI, Ogre migration was started years ago - basic rendering function works but project is frozen at the moment. All code available in master branch inside OGREEE definition check.

Converting game to the DX11, for example, is possible, but you need to know in details how game works - otherwise you are risking to choose wrong rendering methods which will cause wasting of time. And you need advanced knowledge in DX programming of course.

Adding control device support should be easier task, especially if libs exists for the C.

#4514222 - 04/02/20 08:56 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Originally Posted by messyhead
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Hi. Getting the graphics updated is still one of the biggest goals. Some of it was moved to D3D9, but it still uses DirectX7. I take it that's an area of expertise of yours?

What's your github username and I'll send an invite?


Thanks, that will be: dr3adl0rd

If EECH is already DX9, then it should be fairly straightforward to move it further to DX11, and use HW tesselation shaders for terrain. Autogen like grass and Trees could also be done better.

Recently I was mostly focused on UE4 development, but I did spend some considerable time working directly with DirectX and OpenGL on a low level. I'm primarily C/C++/C# and Java (+many other HL langs) developer with 25 years exp. I used to be part of EECH and the discussion group some 10 years ago IIRC (can't remember the nick I used back then), but life required some drastic changes and I lost contact completely.

Cheers,
Tomasz

#4514229 - 04/02/20 09:32 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Wow, that's awesome to have one of the original devs back, and with your experience.

I don't know much C, and everything I've learned is through looking at this code. I work mainly in Java and Python for web/mobile apps and test automation. The graphics side is pretty unknown to me.

thealx is also pretty active and has good experience and has done a lot for the game.

I'll send you an invite soon.

#4514230 - 04/02/20 09:35 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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This is the release thread for the last major release. It says it's now using Direct3D9. I'm not sure if that means it's using DirectX 9 or just some libraries. You'll know more than I.

https://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4234430/eech-ver1-16-0-is-out


EDIT: I just noticed thealx's reply above.

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#4514232 - 04/02/20 09:39 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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thealx and I are adding to the master branch in preparation for a 1.16.1 release. So it could be an idea to take a branch off it.

#4514242 - 04/02/20 10:51 PM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: messyhead]  
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Thanks for the invite, I'll clone from the master, and have a go at the build now.
Are you still using VS2008 for the building process, and is it something you would be willing to upgrade as well ?

#4514249 - 04/03/20 12:26 AM Re: EECH Source Code Access [Re: D4rthCoffee]  
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Originally Posted by D4rthCoffee
Thanks for the invite, I'll clone from the master, and have a go at the build now.
Are you still using VS2008 for the building process, and is it something you would be willing to upgrade as well ?


It's still using Watcom for the build process, I don't think it was converted to fully build in VS2008. If that's something you could do, and it's better, then no problem. I've never used VS though, I use Eclipse just now.

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