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#4503814 - 01/14/20 11:37 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Clockwork Angels, Amway Center, Orlando (my worst seats for a Rush concert)...

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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4503815 - 01/14/20 11:39 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I absolutely would have loved to have seen Earth Wind & Fire in concert during their height in the late 70’s.


“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4503834 - 01/15/20 04:59 AM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Heck, I'd go see a good EW&F tribute band. Better yet, a good cover band that covers them all!



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4503847 - 01/15/20 11:45 AM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Heck, I'd go see a good EW&F tribute band. Better yet, a good cover band that covers them all!



Meh! To each their own of course but to me, going to see a cover band is like drinking decaf coffee or non-alcoholic beer. Or even worse, eating one of those faux beef burgers.

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#4503855 - 01/15/20 01:59 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by MarkG
Heck, I'd go see a good EW&F tribute band. Better yet, a good cover band that covers them all!


Meh! To each their own of course but to me, going to see a cover band is like drinking decaf coffee or non-alcoholic beer. Or even worse, eating one of those faux beef burgers.

I'm sure you enjoy a Symphonic Orchestra. smile I do draw the line with paying a higher ticket price for what amounts to a glorified tribute act (current Chicago and Little River Band).

To me, a good tribute act is like taking a cruise. The room, dinners and shows give you a 5 to 7 day glimpse of living the high life (unless it's one of those disaster cruises). But it's not really the Ritz, Broadway or 5-star dining (even on formal night), just a great bang-for-the-buck vacation. And everyone has a fantastic time! biggrin

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Do you remember the Chicago tribute band that was getting kudos around here?

Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? – Chicago (Leonid & Friends cover)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB-nXQc6LMU

They're branching out...

September - Leonid & Friends (Earth, Wind & Fire cover)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5XmUnYW5Ks

IMO, all they need is a black or black sounding voice that sounds more like the late Maurice White.

And to come to Louisiana (Florida gets them)...
http://leonidandf.com/tour.html



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4503886 - 01/15/20 05:04 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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<I'm really going to have to take an offline break after today. Neil Peart's death interrupted my focus, which still doesn't seem real.>

Looking back over thread, I wanted to comment on...

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I will also add that the audience was roughly 50/50 male/female...

I have noticed over the years more women in attendance at Rush concerts. I think it's mostly older married couples, wives sharing their husband's passion and maybe just happy to be taken out for the evening. smile I do the same with Brad Paisley (thankful he's at least an accomplished musician, else it might be unbearable). Not that my wife doesn't actually like some Rush on her own, several of the radio-friendly songs are on her exercise playlist (what we listen to on the track). I think she appreciated them more after the documentaries (starting with "Rush in Rio"), being dedicated family men who mostly avoided the Rockstar lifestyle. Also, we enjoyed Clockwork Angels a lot for the story (both read the book), dissecting the song lyrics on the way to the Orlando concert. I don't think she considers Neil's lyrics to be Shakespeare, but a notch or two above a typical Rock song (if just in subject matter).

My wife does like most Classic Rock, even some harder Gn'R and AC/DC so it's all good. smile I'd say we share ~80% musical tastes, some of her Country I can't do (especially current Country Music radio) and some of my Metal she can't do (some Pantera, Metallica).

So I can't speak for most women at a Rush show, just that everyone seemed to be having a good time. With Def Leppard/Journey, there were more younger uncoupled women than usual. With Rick Springfield it was groups of middle-aged women. Mostly though, it's just older couples at these shows.



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4503888 - 01/15/20 05:43 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Good post Mark! I'm not a Country music fan myself but I at least do recognize that even that genre has gone through some big stylistic changes over the past several decades. My impression is that the mainstream Country music of today is VERY different from the music from people like Merle Haggard, Hank Williams Jr. and Tammy Wynette.

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I think you're correct, PM. thumbsup

I listen to enough old-school Country (up to mid-80's?) to include plenty of it on a road trip (like one we made recently returning to Pawhuska, OK where Country Music was fitting)...

Merle Haggard - "I Think I'll Just Stay Here And Drink" [Live from Austin, TX]...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1bRGH9eD5o

I'm digging Merle's solos later in the song, also the horns (the French Quarter would love this one)! An artist doesn't *have* to be a musician for me to enjoy their music, but it does go a long way (I usually watch guitarists with awe and envy).


And the romantic in me can groove to songs like this Kris Kristofferson cover (apologies for no video, I like the studio version best)...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bCDWLSrlI4

Also, the Highwaymen is great stuff! cowboy



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4506321 - 02/05/20 11:25 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I guess it's not just Rock that's gone underground, as this is currently the Billboard #1 Country song...
From: https://www.billboard.com/charts/country-songs

Dan + Shay, Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours (Official Music Video)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2E71oe0aSM


I don't know a thing about Rap/Hip Hop, but I wonder if fans of that genre(s) are going through the same thing?



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4506327 - 02/05/20 11:51 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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^ Listened to a couple more Billboard hits, yeah it's over for [mainstream] Country too. Gotta clean out my ears now...

Ghost Riders in the Sky - Johnny Cash - Full Song...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mynzbmrtp9I



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4506413 - 02/06/20 12:31 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
^ Listened to a couple more Billboard hits, yeah it's over for [mainstream] Country too.



At first I was disappointed and surprised by the total lack of actual "Rock" songs when I checked out the Top 40 a few weeks ago but then I realized that Rock music has been around since at least the 1950's so that means the genre is now almost 70 years old. History has shown that all musical genres eventually fade away with the mainstream audience.


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by MarkG
^ Listened to a couple more Billboard hits, yeah it's over for [mainstream] Country too.


At first I was disappointed and surprised by the total lack of actual "Rock" songs when I checked out the Top 40 a few weeks ago but then I realized that Rock music has been around since at least the 1950's so that means the genre is now almost 70 years old. History has shown that all musical genres eventually fade away with the mainstream audience.


IMO, the best Rock was already dead by the mid-80's after the rise of video and electronic sound. I thought Rock was doing ok again in the late-80's with Gn'R and Living Colour. In '91 I knew Rock would continue (despite the punkish Nirvana who gets credit for killing what was already dead, unless we're talking about Gn'R who self-destructed) the first time I popped into my car's CD player Pearl Jam's "Ten". "Even Flow" wasn't even one of the big three hits on that album and it totally rocked! But the problem with Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, etc. is that, even with virtuosic musicians, an incessant deep depressing mood isn't sustainable. That's why back in the day Country Music needed Kenny Rogers, and later Alabama to mix a little love and happiness in with all the seriousness and misery, IMO. Music needs balance.

Anyway, I turned 25 in '92 and began losing interest in music, from aging as much as the direction Rock was going. By 30, with the exception of Rush concerts, I'd lost all interest in music. Television (and eating in front of it) was my thing. By 40 I'd gone 10 years without really listening to music, past or present. At 41, with wanting to improve my health and marriage, I turned to music as a catalyst for change. I was lost as to what was current so I went back to what I already owned and was familiar with (that's when nostalgia started kicking in). A *huge* help was the popularity of cheap portable MP3 players and the rise of fun cheap cover/tribute acts.

I've noticed that most of my similarly-aged peers, who also grew up with 70's/80's Rock, never had a musical revival. Music (especially a live performance) is just not one of their interests, and some would rather not be reminded of their teenage years, first love/wife or whatever. But plenty still enjoy it as I see them at the shows, singing along and having a great time. It's just that we're all getting old(er) so I don't know how long it'll last, but what will I care when I'm ashes?

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Got my tickets this morning (a day early)...

THE CHARLIE DANIELS BAND - The Legend Of Wooley Swamp...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0syI-h-UxyA

Charlie is 83, so like with Ronnie Milsap and Bob Seger (who still sound great in concert), might be a last chance deal.

Man, who's gonna fill their shoes?



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4506442 - 02/06/20 05:46 PM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I got to see them in high school November '81 on the Raise! tour and it was awesome

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but you are right in that I would also have loved to see EW&F in the 70's, especially this entrance



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^ It might be a while, but I know what my next "Top 100" is going to be. thumbsup But what to call it? R&B? Soul? Ol' "Motown" (even if not technically Motown)? Or just Black Music? Eh, I'll figure it out.

And I've got no backstories with this sound, mainly just a chance grab of yard-sale 8-tracks that made me go, "Dayum!" It was also this genre of music that introduced me to the Soft Side (Commodores' Greatest Hits was the first, IIRC). ConFunkShun, The Gap Band, Lakeside, Kool & The Gang, James Ingram, some Stevie Wonder and Rick James...just off the top of my head. That thread is going to be freaking fun and without any misty-eyed aftereffects! biggrin

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That 70's intro reminds me of a black Spinal Tap! biggrin

The guitar in the middle of "That's the Way of the World" above is as pleasant to my ears as the sax at the end of this one...

Earth, Wind & Fire - After The Love Has Gone (Live)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tuJfud4W6U



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
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Hehe...a comparison of a live Rock chart toppers...

Currently #1 Rock...
https://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-songs

Panic! At The Disco ‘High Hopes’ live...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuhGRrT3j9I


"Back in my day..." old_simmer

AC/DC - Back In Black (from Live at River Plate)...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5rGm3kdTuk

"Ok Boomer."

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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
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WHAT THE???

Looking closer at that link...
https://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-songs

No, not that Panic! At The Disco's ‘High Hopes’ has been #1 for 89 weeks (also the #1 Rock Band for 2019), but that the listing reads...

AH CRAP, IT"S GONE! I now see...

1. High Hopes - Panic! At The Disco
2. "Hey Look Ma, I Made It!" - Panic! At The Disco

I can no longer see #3 but I swear I saw Pearl Jam! I must be losing it. screwy

EDIT: Refreshed and got it back, then took a partial screen shot (see below). Must investigate.

2nd EDIT: Just noticed it was already posted on the "...Listening..." thread, must have missed it (and nobody commented on it).

Attached Files Billboard.png
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
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Something's screwy. Another screen shot (gotta do it quick unless you're a member)...

Prince's "When Doves Cry" at #5? Lol. Some kind of data corruption?



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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4506982 - 02/11/20 12:42 AM Re: Music truly is relative [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Looked at the Billboard chart again today...

https://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-songs
(gotta Refresh and quickly scroll down before it loses view)

...and now there's a new listing at #14: Aerosmith's " Walk This Way". Also some Ozzy and more 1980's Prince, so I dunno what's going on.



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
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