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#4643692 - 03/12/24 06:26 PM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Let's not jump to any unfounded conclusions.


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#4643709 - 03/13/24 06:26 AM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Huh, I didn't know the Clintons had connections to Boeing...


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#4643734 - 03/13/24 08:26 PM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#4643741 - 03/13/24 09:25 PM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Not to defend Boeing’s wrongdoings over the years which have led to them becoming a shadow of their former selves, but this sounds like something that could happen to any plane from any manufacturer. If a plane loses a wheel, such as the United 777 the other day, the media will automatically go «OMG ANOTHER BOEING! BOEING DANGEROUS!» while the reality is that something like actuators moving slow because they are cold-soaked are independent of manufacturers, and wheels falling off are a maintenance lapse, not a production defect from the factory.

737s of all types and ages have for example had problems with deicing fluid entering the elevator feel pitot tubes, making the plane believe it is flying faster, and thus reducing hydraulic pressure to the elevators. This results in very heavy elevators even at low speeds, because the feel system thinks you’re at high speed. I have experienced this myself. Airbus 320s and 330s have had AoA probes freeze, resulting in uncommanded pitchdowns even with full aft sidestick input, since the flight control software thinks the plane is constantly pitching up. Then there's the whole ATR42/72 frozen elevator issue, and so on. Around 350 A320Neos with the GE geared turbofan engines will be grounded anually on a rolling basis from now until at least 2026 while engine issues are fixed. A350s have had issues of engine shutdowns in flight because of coffee spills on the centre console! And so on, and so on.

Again, not to defend Boeing, which is in a self-caused indefensible position these days, but if the media was to report everything Avherald writes about on a daily basis, the newspapers wouldn’t have room for anything else.


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#4643747 - 03/14/24 02:21 AM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Another United Airlines Boeing with mechanical problem . 6th in last month.

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#4643831 - 03/15/24 03:34 PM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Not an unfounded conclusion, in fact, an admission that THIS WAS NOT SUICIDE by the man who "suicided" himself to a friend:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1bf9cnm/if_anything_happens_its_not_suicide_boeing/


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If anything happens, it's not suicide.


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#4643834 - 03/15/24 04:11 PM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I never want you on my jury. That is hardly undeniable proof.

It's not beyond imagination for a suicidal person to tell people "if something happens its not suicide". Suicidal people aren't rational.

And I am not ruling out foul play, I'm just not jumping to any conclusions. I want facts. It's the engineer in me.


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#4643836 - 03/15/24 04:20 PM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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"Found of apparent suicide with two shots to the back of his head, and the gun has not been found..."



I'd say this is pretty convincing evidence if it turns out to be verified. Only time will tell of course.


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
"Found of apparent suicide with two shots to the back of his head, and the gun has not been found..."



I'd say this is pretty convincing evidence if it turns out to be verified. Only time will tell of course.



That was Blastmans attempt at satire. No such actual announcement by the investigators exists.


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#4643839 - 03/15/24 04:46 PM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4

I'd say this is pretty convincing evidence if it turns out to be verified. Only time will tell of course.



That was Blastmans attempt at satire. No such actual announcement by the investigators exists.[/quote]


Yes, I actually caught my mistake when I read the news link that you posted. That's what I get for taking Blastman at his word. I blame him! biggrin


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4




That was Blastmans attempt at satire. No such actual announcement by the investigators exists.



Yes, I actually caught my mistake when I read the news link that you posted a few minutes ago. That's what I get for taking Blastman at his word. I blame him! biggrin

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7th incident involving United and their Boeing. Me thinks United ground crew sleeping on the job!


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#4643976 - 03/18/24 11:53 AM Re: Boeing’s Annus Horribilis [Re: F4UDash4]  
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If I owned any Boeing stock I would have unloaded it a while ago.


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
I never want you on my jury. That is hardly undeniable proof.

It's not beyond imagination for a suicidal person to tell people "if something happens its not suicide". Suicidal people aren't rational.

And I am not ruling out foul play, I'm just not jumping to any conclusions. I want facts. It's the engineer in me.


Yeah there could have been a life insurance policy that wouldn't pay out for suicide...

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Not a Boeing aircraft.


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