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#4500667 - 12/17/19 02:31 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: bones]  
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Originally Posted by bones

I also found recently when talking to my son that I have a hard time pronouncing "shape sorter" lately.

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So what exactly is a "shape sorter" used for? It seems like a rather vague term!


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#4500668 - 12/17/19 02:32 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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#4500670 - 12/17/19 02:40 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Data: Some people , I know say ( date da ) others say ( dat ah ) which one is correct ?

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Originally Posted by carrick58
Data: Some people , I know say ( date da ) others say ( dat ah ) which one is correct ?


As a Brit I would say date-ah.

I know Americans say dat-ah, but the character Data in Star Trek was always called date-ah for some reason smile (Maybe Picard named him...)


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That's interesting DM because I pronounce it as "date-ah" and I'm a Yank!



However, I don't quite understand why it's "aluminium" in the UK but "aluminum" in the US. That difference seems rather arbitrary to me.

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#4500674 - 12/17/19 03:20 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Actually, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by bones

I also found recently when talking to my son that I have a hard time pronouncing "shape sorter" lately.

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boNes



So what exactly is a "shape sorter" used for? It seems like a rather vague term!


It's that classic toy that is either a cube or a sphereoid with shapes cut into the surface where you insert blocks of the same shape into.

I should start saying "shape shifter" instead to introduce him to the weird world of scifi/fantasy!

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Originally Posted by bones


It's that classic toy that is either a cube or a sphereoid with shapes cut into the surface where you insert blocks of the same shape into.


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Ah yes, I immediately visualized the toy as soon as you described it. I just had no idea it was called a shape sorter!


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#4500680 - 12/17/19 03:32 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: bones]  
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Originally Posted by bones
Actually, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Um, no. Datum is the singular and data is the plural. As for pronunciation of the plural, data, I believe dictionaries say that either is/both are acceptable. Rather like toe-MAY-toe / toe-MAH-toe.


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#4500682 - 12/17/19 03:36 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Here a tongue twister my friend who can't pronounce sheet correctly will have trouble with:

How many sheets could a sheet slitter slit if a sheet slitter could slit sheets?

Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

Google says:

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The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word as "a nonsense word, originally used esp. by children, and typically expressing excited approbation: fantastic, fabulous", while Dictionary.com says it is "used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English."


According to WIKI, it was a word first recorded in Oxford dictionary in 1931:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious



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Originally Posted by vonBaur
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Actually, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Um, no. Datum is the singular and data is the plural. As for pronunciation of the plural, data, I believe dictionaries say that either is/both are acceptable. Rather like toe-MAY-toe / toe-MAH-toe.



In Latin, yes, but in engineering in terms of information, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Kind of like how really it should be viri when we talk about more than one virus, which is correct in Latin, but in English we still say viruses.

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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Here a tongue twister my friend who can't pronounce sheet correctly will have trouble with:

How many sheets could a sheet slitter slit if a sheet slitter could slit sheets?

Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

Google says:

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The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word as "a nonsense word, originally used esp. by children, and typically expressing excited approbation: fantastic, fabulous", while Dictionary.com says it is "used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English."


According to WIKI, it was a word first recorded in Oxford dictionary in 1931:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious


That's atrocious, NoFlyBoy. Quite atrocious.


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Originally Posted by DM
Originally Posted by carrick58
Data: Some people , I know say ( date da ) others say ( dat ah ) which one is correct ?


As a Brit I would say date-ah.

I know Americans say dat-ah, but the character Data in Star Trek was always called date-ah for some reason smile (Maybe Picard named him...)



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#4500700 - 12/17/19 04:48 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Here a tongue twister my friend who can't pronounce sheet correctly will have trouble with:

How many sheets could a sheet slitter slit if a sheet slitter could slit sheets?

Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

Google says:

Quote
The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word as "a nonsense word, originally used esp. by children, and typically expressing excited approbation: fantastic, fabulous", while Dictionary.com says it is "used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English."


According to WIKI, it was a word first recorded in Oxford dictionary in 1931:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious


That's atrocious, NoFlyBoy. Quite atrocious.


I like this one better (you have to unmute it):

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3t2aqk

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#4500728 - 12/17/19 07:00 PM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
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Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

That's atrocious, NoFlyBoy. Quite atrocious.


Apparently kids in those days use to say that word a lot when they get excited about something.

Nowadays, they just curse with emojis.


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Leicester is a local community that gets some folks riled up, as to how it should be pronounced. Is it Lee-cester or Lester? The founder of the settlement named it in honor of an Englishman, the Earl of Leicester and pronounced it Lester, but many locals insist it is Lee-cester because they live there and will call it what they please.


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#4500763 - 12/18/19 01:03 AM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Or this place in Wales:

Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

Who the heck name this place?

Was he drunk at the time?

Listen to the correct Welsh pronunciation




#4500769 - 12/18/19 02:12 AM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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For some reason I have a hard time with that word when asked what medication I take, Irbesartan
Being french probably doesn't help

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#4500789 - 12/18/19 10:01 AM Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Or this place in Wales:

Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

Who the heck name this place?

Was he drunk at the time?

Listen to the correct Welsh pronunciation





The place name was lengthened in Victorian times to attract tourism: "contrived in 1869 as an early publicity stunt to give the station the longest name of any railway station in Britain".

As a resident of Worcestershire, I can confirm that it is mostly pronounced as 'Woostershere'. Rural vernacular would be 'Wussershyre' though authentic local accents are being diluted now due to population movement. Nearby market town Evesham, pronounced by older indigenous as 'Aysum'.
I live in a village called Naunton Beauchamp pronounced 'Beecham'.



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Watching this makes me realize most of the English that I have been speaking all my life is mostly wrong.

Blame it on the schools and teachers that taught it to me and my Mum and Dad!



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