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#4499938 - 12/11/19 03:53 PM Re: Ghostbusters : Afterlife [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur


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Went to see the "Ocean's 11" reboot with my wife and my mother-in-law. My wife had never seen the original and thought the reboot was fun. My mother-in-law, on the other hand, considered it a cinematic blasphemy for the rest of her life. Though I don't believe overall it compares to the original, I thought that it stood up well as a 21st Century caper movie. Not well enough to watch any of the sequels. .



Heh, I fully admit that I had clue the "Ocean's 11" from 2001 was a reboot. I had never heard of the original with Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Jr.


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#4499987 - 12/11/19 11:33 PM Re: Ghostbusters : Afterlife [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
I don't expect much from this new Ghostbusters.

Ghostbusters II in 1989 was not any good either, IMO.

It sure didn't catch the lightning in a bottle again like Ghostbusters did.


Pretty much this. The original was fresh and unique, the sequel played to the same gags too much.
I'll hold judgement on this new version, but it's got a high bar to meet.


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#4500004 - 12/12/19 03:03 AM Re: Ghostbusters : Afterlife [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
I don't expect much from this new Ghostbusters.

Ghostbusters II in 1989 was not any good either, IMO.

It sure didn't catch the lightning in a bottle again like Ghostbusters did.


That's because Ghostbusters II used a tired, generic, paint-by-numbers plot with character exploitation but limited to no serious character development. It fell into the same typical plot trap of many 80s comedy films that weren't so good.

I remember leaving the theater with my brother after the film unfulfilled. Even the bad guy was the stereotypical abusive boss with semi-gay undertones. It was like they were trying to touch all the bases on a checklist without remembering what made the first film so strong--and frankly, trying to out do the first film was next to impossible without it being the first in a contiguous trilogy which it was not.

Maybe if they had tried to reintroduce Gozer... maybe.


Hell, even the baby was a generic 80s plot element by that time and did the film no favors whatsoever in how the implemented the tyke. This was two years after "Three Men and a Baby" and several months before "Look Who's Talking." The baby only made the film drag and added even more to the "routine" feeling.


The first film was full of world building. The second was a world drain.

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#4500006 - 12/12/19 03:31 AM Re: Ghostbusters : Afterlife [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Heh, I fully admit that I had clue the "Ocean's 11" from 2001 was a reboot. I had never heard of the original with Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Jr.

It's worth watching if you get the chance. Dean's "Ain't That a Kick in the Head" plays a few time and I think Sammy has a number or two. I don't recall Frank singing in it. It's not great cinema (sorry. Scorsese), but it's a good Rat Pack film and it has one of the BEST surprise endings in the history of movies. Ranks right up there with the original "The Mechanic" and "The Usual Suspects".


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#4575574 - 07/27/21 02:36 PM Re: Ghostbusters : Afterlife [Re: Khai]  
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Look, it's Mike from Stranger Things and he is in the gig economy of busting ghosts.


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