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#4498137 - 11/24/19 03:53 AM Ver. 5.0 FM Update Pack Now Uploaded  
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It's that time of year again gents' for an FM poll, for a future ver. 5.0 of my FM update pack for WOFFue/pe. I will let this poll run for about a month. Simply click off what model you would like to see tinkered with first - I look forward to the results. This will give me an overview of what tweaks are more important than others. (Typo: Siemense should be written Siemens in the poll, sorry - don't know how to fix that now.)

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Ver. 5.0 FM Tweaks Poll
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Pfalz Parasol (look into top speed, climb rate, control movement sensitivity, etc.)
0%, 0 Votes
Morane-Saulnier Parasol (look into top speed, climb rate, control movement sensitivity, etc.)
5%, 1 Votes
Fokk. D.II (look into max-g loads, top dive speed, top speed, climb rate, controls, etc.)
5%, 1 Votes
Fokk. D.III (look into same things as for D.II variant)
5%, 1 Votes
Halb. D.II/III (look into max-g loads, dive speed, level speed, climb rate and controls)
0%, 0 Votes
Nieup. 17 (check over max-g loads, dive speed, top speed, climb rate and controls, also wing loading)
40%, 8 Votes
Nieup. 24 (check over similar things as for Nieup. 17, particularly controls since the Nieup. 24 was somewhat slippery)
20%, 4 Votes
Fokk. D.VI (look into doing a 160hp-approx. Siemense-Halske variant, with better climb rate and top speed of about 200 kph, a very rare type)
10%, 2 Votes
Se5a (see if possible to make a rare, engined-up variant of the Se5, keeping the four-bladed prop. but giving 2300 rpm, 190-210 hp on the Hisso, better climb rate and top speed than on the Viper)
15%, 3 Votes
Total Votes: 20
Voting on this poll ends: 12/25/19 03:51 AM
Last edited by VonS; 05/27/20 07:55 AM. Reason: Added info. to thread's title.

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#4498138 - 11/24/19 04:01 AM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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#4498186 - 11/24/19 06:08 PM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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Gotta abstain from this one, I didn't even know most of those were in the game! The sim that keeps on giving.


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#4498228 - 11/24/19 10:51 PM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: Ace_Pilto]  
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Originally Posted by Ace_Pilto
Gotta abstain from this one, I didn't even know most of those were in the game! The sim that keeps on giving.


Yes, WOFFue/pe has a great variety of aircraft. Pleased to see several votes for the Nieup. 17 already, and a couple for the "Albert Ball Special" version of the Se5.

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#4498418 - 11/26/19 07:30 PM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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I would look at both the N.17 and the N.24. It would be useful to do them together because people often progress from one to the next, the result being you want the flight models consistent both with opponent aircraft and with the next aircraft in the Nieuport series.

#4498432 - 11/26/19 10:11 PM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Originally Posted by SirMike1983
I would look at both the N.17 and the N.24. It would be useful to do them together because people often progress from one to the next, the result being you want the flight models consistent both with opponent aircraft and with the next aircraft in the Nieuport series.


Pleased with the latest poll results - looks like the N.17/24 will get a look-over first, and will then tinker perhaps with the Se5/5a. Yes, the Nieups. will be looked at together - the 24 and 27 sported a "newer" airfoil than the 17-23 series, so the 24 will get a climb rate closer to the 27. The only big difference between the 24 and 27 is a thicker v-strut and thicker single-spar in the lower wings, on the 27. Top speeds should be similar on the two - high 180s kph.

For the Se5...I will think about approximating either the lower-compression 200hp Hisso with four-bladed prop, or perhaps the early Wolseley (the "Adder"), that also had a four-bladed prop. According to Dan-San's post on TheAerodrome, the four-bladed Hisso was the best performing of the Scout Experimental types.

Good tweaking times ahead,
Von S smile

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#4498468 - 11/27/19 06:38 AM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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Sweet. Love the Nieupor line-up.
Thanks!

#4499616 - 12/09/19 04:58 AM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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Many thanks for your votes gents' - even though voting is still open, it looks like the results are clear. biggrin 8 votes for the Nieup. 17 and 4 for the Nieu. 24, also 3 for the low-compression Hisso version of the Se5/5a. Will therefore do FM tweaks for the Lewis and Vickers-armed Nieup. 17, Lewis and Vickers-armed Nieup. 24, and will tinker with an approximation of the "Adder" or low-compression Hisso variant of the Scout Experimental - for a ver. 5.0 of the FM pack.

The Fokk. D.VI, D.II/III, and some of the Parasols - I will comb over in a later ver. 6.0 pack since those are not pressing concerns.

Happy flying,
Von S smile2


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#4512322 - 03/23/20 05:17 AM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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FM tweak for the Hisso 8Ba variant of the Se5a now complete - will return to the casual campaigns thread shortly, for mission no. 11 - then to look at the Nieups. 17 and 24 later on, for the ver. 5.0 FM pack.

Managed to down four Alb D.I types with this variant of the Se5a in QC mode - this is as good of an aircraft as the 220 hp retrofitted Spad 7, or the late 235 hp Spad 13. I think it's better since it has a slightly better climb rate and is more maneuverable than the Spads. Also has one of the best top speeds too, near SL. As well went up in the field-modded 170 hp Alb. D.I and tried a few one-on-one dogfights with the Hisso 8Ba Scout Experimental - what a dangerous opponent - and very aerobatic too (flies more like a 1920s or 30s aircraft).

Screenies below...happy flying all,
Von S smile


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#4517548 - 04/22/20 04:36 AM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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Finally got around to uploading this...should be available for download in a day or two if not yet approved at CombatAce - Version 5.0 of the FM update pack for WOFFue/pe. Includes tweaks for the Vickers-armed Nieup. 17, 17bis, Vickers-armed Nieup. 23, Vickers-armed Nieup 24bis, Vickers-armed 24, also the Vickers-Lewis 27; as well includes improvements to the Alb. D.V and uprated D.V, a Siemens-Halske Fokk. D.VI, a tuned-up Fokk. D.VIII, improved Pfalz D.IIIa and the earlier D.III variant too; also in the package is the 8Ba Hisso-powered Se5a and the Bristol Scout Type C. More info. in the included "Read Me" file.

Link is:
https://combatace.com/files/file/16799-fm-tweaks-for-woffuepe/

Will look over the M-S and Pfalz Parasols, also the Lewis-only (RFC) Nieups. 17 through 27, possibly in a distant future ver. 6.0 update. Hope to get back into the casual campaigns WOFF thread soon.

Happy flying fellow WOFFers,
Von S smile2

P.S. FM tweaks compatible with the ue and pe eds. of WOFF, and JSGME friendly.

Last edited by VonS; 04/22/20 07:07 AM. Reason: Modified info.

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#4517776 - 04/23/20 04:50 PM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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Forgot to post a link in my previous post to the latest, modified list of approx. service dates for types now included with the ver. 5.0 FM update pack (also linked to near the bottom of the WOFF-on-a-Mac thread):

https://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads....service-dates-for-tweaked-types-in-von-s

(Hopefully CombatAce approves the upload soon - I will consider moving my WOFF-related update packs to Sandbagger's site in the future but have for now continued with CombatAce for consistency, and since they started me off with my modding endeavors in FE2 - so I like to support them with my uploads.)

Have in the meantime flown mission no. 15 in the casual campaigns thread, with Xjouve's highest-level terrain mesh (ver. 1.0) installed - and it is a beauty for the professional landscaper - no drop in fps - hope to write up the report soon.

Happy flying all,
Von S smile


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#4517811 - 04/23/20 07:38 PM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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Originally Posted by VonS
Finally got around to uploading this...should be available for download in a day or two if not yet approved at CombatAce - Version 5.0 of the FM update pack for WOFFue/pe. Includes tweaks for the Vickers-armed Nieup. 17, 17bis, Vickers-armed Nieup. 23, Vickers-armed Nieup 24bis, Vickers-armed 24, also the Vickers-Lewis 27; as well includes improvements to the Alb. D.V and uprated D.V, a Siemens-Halske Fokk. D.VI, a tuned-up Fokk. D.VIII, improved Pfalz D.IIIa and the earlier D.III variant too; also in the package is the 8Ba Hisso-powered Se5a and the Bristol Scout Type C. More info. in the included "Read Me" file.

Link is:
https://combatace.com/files/file/16799-fm-tweaks-for-woffuepe/

Will look over the M-S and Pfalz Parasols, also the Lewis-only (RFC) Nieups. 17 through 27, possibly in a distant future ver. 6.0 update. Hope to get back into the casual campaigns WOFF thread soon.

Happy flying fellow WOFFers,
Von S smile2

P.S. FM tweaks compatible with the ue and pe eds. of WOFF, and JSGME friendly.


I get an error screen (screenshot attached)

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#4517820 - 04/23/20 08:33 PM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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@Scout,

That error screen means that our good admins. at CombatAce haven't gotten around yet to checking over the update and releasing it - it's somewhere in their upload queue, hopefully to be released in a day or two (although sometimes it takes them 3 or 4 days to push through uploads).

Von S smile


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#4517869 - 04/24/20 01:19 AM Re: FM Tweaks Poll for Ver. 5.0 [Re: VonS]  
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Originally Posted by VonS
@Scout,

That error screen means that our good admins. at CombatAce haven't gotten around yet to checking over the update and releasing it - it's somewhere in their upload queue, hopefully to be released in a day or two (although sometimes it takes them 3 or 4 days to push through uploads).

Von S smile


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