Need to avoid using company names, like Grumman, without permission. Same company also built the Yorktown Carriers, CV-5, CV-6 and CV-8. That is, a shipyard they subsequently took over built them.
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#4495950 - 11/04/1903:00 PMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Originally Posted by Asheshouse
Need to avoid using company names, like Grumman, without permission. Same company also built the Yorktown Carriers, CV-5, CV-6 and CV-8. That is, a shipyard they subsequently took over built them.
That's my understanding as well. So as long as you refer to the planes as just "F6F Hellcat" or "F4F Wildcat" in your sim then you are ok.
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#4496693 - 11/09/1910:30 PMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Need to avoid using company names, like Grumman, without permission. Same company also built the Yorktown Carriers, CV-5, CV-6 and CV-8. That is, a shipyard they subsequently took over built them.
That's my understanding as well. So as long as you refer to the planes as just "F6F Hellcat" or "F4F Wildcat" in your sim then you are ok.
You might even have issues with the nicknames. I think that's why when we did the Jane's F-15 and F/A-18 we just stuck with just the designation. It's been <cough> years ago but I think the idea was if you could argue tax payer money was used for it then it was OK but the nicknames weren't "official" and so were more the property of the company. You might be able to argue precedence since other games have used the names before but after that some companies caved in and paid so that weakens things. Then again I'm definitely not a lawyer and very out of touch of such subjects than I used to be when actively developing for the genre. I'd say the games did a lot more for them in the terms of recognition, positive branding, etc. than whatever coins they were able to eke out harassing the developers but of course I'm biased.
Elf
#4496903 - 11/11/1908:08 PMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Wow, hello there Scott! Honoured to know you're around here too! Had great fun (and some sort of indescribable sadness too) at reading your MPS and Jane's stories back in the day. Thank you for everything you did that brought people like me to where they're at now - and to what they aspire to make. S!
#4496931 - 11/12/1903:37 AMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Actually I was the one that pointed this thread out to Ed. I still try to keep an eye on what's going on at SimHQ but I'm usually pretty quiet. I'm glad you've enjoyed what we created and my ramblings. You'll find most developers started off as gamers first and pretty much stay that way though it may affect what you play for fun and how you approach playing games. I've enjoyed seeing how your creation has been developing and hope you can achieve all you want to do. It's quite the rush when you realize you've made something that is allowing others to have fun like the games you used to play. Sort of "paying it forward". May there be many wonderful stories people share about their adventures in your world.
Elf
#4497591 - 11/18/1907:30 PMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Aye! Really a great thing to know that people like you are still around. I have been wandering on the internet looking for you vets - there's a facebook group made of former MPS employees where I found faces and stories I thought were lost in time for good. My dev wondered what you people are doing now - wherever you are, whatever you do, we sincerely hope that you're doing good. Just look at the quake the mere resurrection of the name Microprose as a brand provoked... People remember you, and we thank you again for your work.
Anyway. Here's a small sneak peek at our future dev update reel for late November. It shows are latest experiments at getting SBDs and TBDs flying together in complex formations over diversified terrain. Look at them coming out of their mountain pass with their bombs, looking for a fight! Progress is good so far, fingers crossed.
#4497869 - 11/21/1908:45 PMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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I think I know of the FB group you're talking about. If so you'll see some posts by me though most of mine are just pointing out related links.
Nice teaser. I like the organic feel as guys need to correct a bit to get into place. My guys would take their formation point and move it ahead a bit to act as an aim point. The closer the aim point was moved to their actual formation point the more drastic their heading and pitch corrections would be. I could use the Lead's forward vector, which was already computed and normalized, for generating the offset so it was a fairly cheap which was important back then. I can't remember if I used a fixed distance or if I based it off of their speed. When you post the November dev update I'll make sure Ed sees it.
Elf
#4498513 - 11/27/1907:43 PMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Thank you for your support and your friendship Scott, it means much
We're getting closer. Here's another sneak peek at the update contents. Now time to move on with the actual thing before the end of next week (crossing fingers, life IRL isn't kind everyday...!)
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#4498695 - 11/29/1905:31 AMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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#4498708 - 11/29/1911:36 AMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Looking great. I am definitely a pre-ordering customer!
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#4498710 - 11/29/1911:57 AMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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Let's not forget on what our hobby is based on. As you know, today is a special day in PTO history. Pray for Peace for the generations to come, & leave the woes of War to the realm of video games...
Everybody, have a peaceful, kind and spiritual Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. Take care and stay safe! And our thanks to all the Vets, Servicemen & Servicewomen who are reading us! o7
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#4501424 - 12/24/1905:04 PMRe: WW2 Carrier game - would anyone play that today?
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