Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#4497661 - 11/19/19 01:31 PM New Half Life game.... but VR only?  
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 332
Khai Online content
TARDIS engineer
Khai  Online Content
TARDIS engineer
Member

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 332
UK
well thats me out... no budget for grading for VR for a long long time...

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#4497663 - 11/19/19 01:32 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 109,569
PanzerMeyer Online centaurian
Pro-Consul of Florida
PanzerMeyer  Online Centaurian
Pro-Consul of Florida
King Crimson - SimHQ's Top Poster

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 109,569
Miami, FL USA
Can you post a link? Any info at all on this?


“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4497664 - 11/19/19 01:37 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 332
Khai Online content
TARDIS engineer
Khai  Online Content
TARDIS engineer
Member

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 332
UK

#4497665 - 11/19/19 01:41 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 109,569
PanzerMeyer Online centaurian
Pro-Consul of Florida
PanzerMeyer  Online Centaurian
Pro-Consul of Florida
King Crimson - SimHQ's Top Poster

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 109,569
Miami, FL USA
Ah ok, thanks! Yeah if this is VR only then I'm out as well. I guess Valve doesn't mind making a game for a very niche audience? The vast majority of gamers still don't have VR.


edit: I just read the official announcement and while Valve says it will be their "flagship VR" title it doesn't say directly that it will be VR-only. I guess we'll find out eventually.

Last edited by PanzerMeyer; 11/19/19 01:44 PM.

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4497666 - 11/19/19 01:49 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
F4UDash4 Offline
Hotshot
F4UDash4  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
SC
I'm a definite convert to VR gaming for flight sims but VR only for any game, and something like Half Life in particular, seems very odd to me.


“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the cost comes in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player.” - Milton Friedman
#4497667 - 11/19/19 01:52 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 332
Khai Online content
TARDIS engineer
Khai  Online Content
TARDIS engineer
Member

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 332
UK
oh don't get me wrong, I'd love to upgrade to VR... but the finances be lacking somewhat...
(mainly for Elite... VR... proper audio mixer for the sound.. some control upgrades on the HOTAS side.. making up some Raspi/android screens for controls.... please send cash to.......)

#4497668 - 11/19/19 02:07 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 109,569
PanzerMeyer Online centaurian
Pro-Consul of Florida
PanzerMeyer  Online Centaurian
Pro-Consul of Florida
King Crimson - SimHQ's Top Poster

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 109,569
Miami, FL USA
I'll most likely get VR eventually but I'm in no rush. Track IR is good enough for now for my flight sims and space sims.


“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4497672 - 11/19/19 02:57 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,306
Chucky Offline
Veteran
Chucky  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,306
UK
Well I'd love to try out a VR headset for flight games etc I am NOT going to control those games (or any other type) by waving my hands around like a demented loon.


“In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.”
#4497709 - 11/19/19 07:54 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 739
BlueHeron Offline
Member
BlueHeron  Offline
Member

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 739
Ottawa, Canada
While there are some fun VR games out there, the enjoyment tapers off very quickly and they all get shelved and forgotten in my experience. They don't come anywhere near the exciting experience of flying and racing in VR and I can't imagine HL being any different.

#4497718 - 11/19/19 09:58 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 982
Zamzow Offline
Member
Zamzow  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 982
VR is still displayed on a flat "screen", so I don't see how having VR capability would prevent 2D gameplay - that's basically what you'd have just by closing one eye...

#4497719 - 11/19/19 10:02 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,900
Mr_Blastman Online content
Senior Member
Mr_Blastman  Online Content
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,900
Atlanta, GA
I'm not interested in a VR only game.

#4497743 - 11/20/19 09:44 AM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Zamzow]  
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,782
DM Offline
Member
DM  Offline
Member

Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,782
Prague
Originally Posted by Zamzow
VR is still displayed on a flat "screen", so I don't see how having VR capability would prevent 2D gameplay - that's basically what you'd have just by closing one eye...


If it's a Half-life game, then Valve are developing it right? Valve have also developed their own proprietary VR set. Half-life games are hugely popular. Make the most recent Half-life game VR only. Profit smile

Two years later, release a 2D version. More profit.


"They might look the same, but they don't taste the same."
#4497744 - 11/20/19 10:05 AM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,306
Chucky Offline
Veteran
Chucky  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,306
UK


The Valve VR Index kit is getting on for £1,000 so I do wonder how many HL fans will stump up that sort of money.


“In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.”
#4497759 - 11/20/19 02:04 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Chucky]  
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
F4UDash4 Offline
Hotshot
F4UDash4  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
SC
Originally Posted by Chucky


The Valve VR Index kit is getting on for £1,000 so I do wonder how many HL fans will stump up that sort of money.


That price is nuts. I know it is better than an Oculus ($400) but not that much better.

I'll stick with my OR for probably at least 5 more years. I'll need to see a large increase in resolution before I upgrade. Wider FOV would be nice too, but resolution improvement is the only thing that will get me to upgrade.


“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the cost comes in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player.” - Milton Friedman
#4497777 - 11/20/19 06:09 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,151
Mark Aisthorpe Offline
Crazy Courier
Mark Aisthorpe  Offline
Crazy Courier
Senior Member

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,151
London UK
I'd like to stick with my OR for 5 more years too but I doubt it will last that long. I've used it so much that it's definitely getting a bit tatty now smile

If I do have to replace it any time soon I'll be more than happy with a Rift S to replace my CV1. I'm not paying that much for an inex.

Last edited by Mark Aisthorpe; 11/20/19 06:12 PM.

Asus Maximus XI Hero
i9-9900K
32Gb Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR4 3200MHz
MSI RTX 2080Ti Ventus
Corsair H115i
Corsair RM850X PSU
Phanteks Evolv X
Aser EB321HQU 32" Monitor 2560x1440
Win 10
#4497778 - 11/20/19 06:23 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
F4UDash4 Offline
Hotshot
F4UDash4  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
SC
My OR is about 2 years old and holding up well, other than the silky fabric on the foam face pad coming off. I hope there is a reasonably priced ($500 or less) higher resolution solution available when it does wear out.


“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the cost comes in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player.” - Milton Friedman
#4497780 - 11/20/19 06:36 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: DM]  
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 982
Zamzow Offline
Member
Zamzow  Offline
Member

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 982
Originally Posted by DM
Originally Posted by Zamzow
VR is still displayed on a flat "screen", so I don't see how having VR capability would prevent 2D gameplay - that's basically what you'd have just by closing one eye...


If it's a Half-life game, then Valve are developing it right? Valve have also developed their own proprietary VR set. Half-life games are hugely popular. Make the most recent Half-life game VR only. Profit smile

Two years later, release a 2D version. More profit.


Seems to me you'd want to release in reverse of that order to maximize profits.

You may well sell more VR sets if you went VR only at first, but no way "restricting" your game sales like that is the path to more dollars...

#4497796 - 11/20/19 09:37 PM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: Khai]  
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,781
Crane Hunter Offline
Hotshot
Crane Hunter  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,781
Master Meme-er
Bold strategy cotton.

Conventional First Person games have evolved about as far as they can go as far as play mechanics go IMO, however I wonder if even upcoming VR tech is up to the task of carrying a AAA flagship franchise title?

#4497807 - 11/21/19 12:51 AM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: F4UDash4]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,591
James McKenzie-Smith Offline
Senior Member
Happy Birthday James McKenzie-Smith  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,591
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Originally Posted by F4UDash4

That price is nuts. I know it is better than an Oculus ($400) but not that much better.

I'll stick with my OR for probably at least 5 more years. I'll need to see a large increase in resolution before I upgrade. Wider FOV would be nice too, but resolution improvement is the only thing that will get me to upgrade.


I started on Oculus Rift, and moved to Samsung Odyssey+ when it was on sale. WMR inside-out 6DOF tracking is more than adequate for flight and driving sims, and the increases in resolution and lower screen door effect are more than merely noticeable. In fact, having used quite a few VR headsets, I would rate Odyssey+ above Vive Pro in visuals, and the price is about the same as Rift S. If you see one for sale on Black Friday, I would suggest that you pick one up if you have a few spare dollars.

#4497809 - 11/21/19 01:01 AM Re: New Half Life game.... but VR only? [Re: James McKenzie-Smith]  
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
F4UDash4 Offline
Hotshot
F4UDash4  Offline
Hotshot

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 8,189
SC
Originally Posted by James McKenzie-Smith
Originally Posted by F4UDash4

That price is nuts. I know it is better than an Oculus ($400) but not that much better.

I'll stick with my OR for probably at least 5 more years. I'll need to see a large increase in resolution before I upgrade. Wider FOV would be nice too, but resolution improvement is the only thing that will get me to upgrade.


I started on Oculus Rift, and moved to Samsung Odyssey+ when it was on sale. WMR inside-out 6DOF tracking is more than adequate for flight and driving sims, and the increases in resolution and lower screen door effect are more than merely noticeable. In fact, having used quite a few VR headsets, I would rate Odyssey+ above Vive Pro in visuals, and the price is about the same as Rift S. If you see one for sale on Black Friday, I would suggest that you pick one up if you have a few spare dollars.



Thanks. That won't happen this year but I will file this away for future reference and it could move my update timeframe "to the left" as they say in Pentagon-speak wink


“Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the cost comes in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player.” - Milton Friedman
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
Are we having too many children?
by NoFlyBoy. 12/12/19 03:03 AM
Arrowverse Crisis crossover special
by Raw Kryptonite. 12/12/19 12:17 AM
Highest Scoring Aces Still Living
by F4UDash4. 12/11/19 02:18 PM
Ghostbusters : Afterlife
by Khai. 12/09/19 02:33 PM
Honey Badger doesn't give a #%&*$#
by Chucky. 12/09/19 01:51 PM
Pin-Up: World of Warships musical
by Sokol1. 12/09/19 01:40 PM
Current state of "Study" sims
by Andy T. 12/09/19 03:32 AM
René Auberjonois was 79
by F4UDash4. 12/09/19 03:23 AM
The movies coming soon thread.
by NoFlyBoy. 12/08/19 09:18 PM
Victoria Falls dead dry
by Red2112. 12/08/19 07:13 PM
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0