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#4495258 - 10/30/19 07:16 PM And a stupid question.  
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As stated a dumb question for someone that has played OFF/WOFF since release. 10 years? 12?
Anyway I think the answer is “No” but does bomb weight effect aircraft performance?

#4495261 - 10/30/19 07:35 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Yes it does.
One of the delights of making FMs is also testing aircraft flight models with take off/landing with and without various loads, and repeat with AI in control wink


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#4495263 - 10/30/19 07:41 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Excellent. Thank you sir! Glad to hear I was wrong.
I shall have to be most careful then all “bombed up.”

#4495272 - 10/30/19 08:09 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted by DukeIronHand
As stated a dumb question for someone that has played OFF/WOFF since release. 10 years? 12?
Anyway I think the answer is “No” but does bomb weight effect aircraft performance?

No, it does not nope

#4495370 - 10/31/19 03:14 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Umm, I think the FM builder would know
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#4495371 - 10/31/19 03:21 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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You can make simple test - take Gotha with full load of bombs and fuel and do a test flight (note the take off distance, speeds, manoueverability, max vertical speeds/climb speeds, etc.). Then repeat the same without load and compare. Result?
No difference.

#4495373 - 10/31/19 03:29 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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#4495384 - 10/31/19 05:09 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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I have to agree with Jara.

There is no discernible difference in flight characteristics with or without the payload. The Camel should be a Cow with bombs onboard. I should be forced to drop my bombs and forfeit the success of the mission to save my hide, or hold on to the eggs and pray the escort can clear my tail (unlikely).
I’m not whining. It is what it is and I’ve learned to close my eyes to it, but I do wish there was a secret button to turn that feature on.
Does CFS allow for “heavy” flight model when loaded with bombs? I was under the impression that was not possible.


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#4495964 - 11/04/19 04:47 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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A new (stupid) question, this time about Lone Wolf:
After the enemies did need help from a tree to shot me down I started a new campaign before 1917. So I could fly as Lone Wolf the first 3 times. I recogniced, that in all 3 flights "my friends" were already over my airfield. So I had to fight only short moment after the start.
My question: which kind of Lone Wolf missions does the system allow?

Thank you for answer!

#4495983 - 11/04/19 05:54 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Well it does affect it just not so much in some tests. Try more bombs and it will take longer to take off. FE2b for example is less powered than the Gotha adding bombs it takes longer, and if you edit to add a lot more bombs it takes longer etc.


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#4495986 - 11/04/19 06:23 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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So based on Pol's comments it is tuneable if desired.


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#4495992 - 11/04/19 07:18 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Have you tried that?

#4496005 - 11/04/19 08:02 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: JJJ65]  
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Originally Posted by JJJ65
Have you tried that?


No but based on what he says it seams worth the effort if you want a customized approach.


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#4496009 - 11/04/19 09:02 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Morane Parasol with 4 x 112lb bombs? Why not wink

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#4496071 - 11/05/19 10:26 AM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Yes, it really works! thumbsup
Nieuport N11 with 8 x 112 lb bombs could not take off:

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#4496072 - 11/05/19 10:47 AM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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I do not have access to test, but I believe OPs original question was regarding performance during flight. ie will that same N11 in an air start have lift or drop? And is there better lift if payload is dropped one at a time?


Similar performance question could be asked about full tank vs almost empty fuel?

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#4496077 - 11/05/19 11:25 AM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Furthermore... the consumtion of fuel affects the performance as the thrust to weight ratio changes?

Already asked by orbyxP (missed it)

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#4496079 - 11/05/19 11:53 AM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: orbyxP]  
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Originally Posted by orbyxP
I do not have access to test, but I believe OPs original question was regarding performance during flight. ie will that same N11 in an air start have lift or drop? And is there better lift if payload is dropped one at a time?

She flies, just rather struggling:

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#4496082 - 11/05/19 12:41 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Oooo, LePrieur bombs! Just the thing I need for those Panzers.
So, does that mean the bombs should be made heavier to make the flight characteristics feel different?


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#4496083 - 11/05/19 01:26 PM Re: And a stupid question. [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
Oooo, LePrieur bombs! Just the thing I need for those Panzers.
So, does that mean the bombs should be made heavier to make the flight characteristics feel different?


Yep, it seems you are right.

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