Pretty Meh. Rey and Kylo are gonna fight again, she's gonna win again, Palaptine is back, Meh.

Who cares.

The last movie was full retard.

I will watch the final knowing my father who took me to see the first 3 before passing away in 1993. And my Son who lives for it. He is 24 now.
He will watch it through me. And the same will go on with my son.

Have to agree some somewhat, about Full retard on the last. But will endure for Dad.

I'll be watching it. I think one major complaint from many older fans is that they are not getting the same raw visceral feelings with these new SW movies compared to the original trilogy. Well, you can't control getting older and you also cant control the fact that when the original trilogy of films came out they were very unique. How many Star Wars clones/inspired films have we had now over the past 35+ years? A lot.

I will have to see it simply because it's supposed to be the last one

The last one with those characters. It will most definitely NOT be the last Star Wars movie from Disney.

I'm sure I'll see it after it's out for home viewing... I'm just so facepalm after the last two films that the series has completely dropped off my radar.

That's not what I was angry about, Panzer. The second movie had awful writing and plotting.

Some gripes:

1) Sneed was wasted and stupid. Dead in seconds? A single name badass... turns out to be a cotton candy retard?

2) Lasers that arced like medieval arrows in space? Please.

3) The rebels ran out of gas...

4) Princess Leia and the space bubble what?

5) Luke went from savior of the Galaxy to a bitter washed up recluse that dies, wasting his potential?

6) Finn who?

7) Laura Dern the feminazi

8) A massive wheeled death laser that has to be hauled into range to do damage...

9) Poe the cuck

10) THEY RAN OUT OF GAS


I could go on. There was nothing redeemable about the script. The producers should have thrown it in the trash and started over with an entirely new plotline and character progression. There is no point in continuing what they wrote.

was that a Y-Wing...?

other than "Feck YEAH! Y-WING!!!!"

erm. aren't they ancient by this point...?

I agree with Mr_Blastman, it was the script and so much more that made it bad. I really liked Rogue One, so it's not a matter of getting older or whatever, it's whether it's a well made movie or not.

That said, I'll probably see it just because it's the last in that series. I didn't feel the need to see Solo, and I didn't buy the disc for Last Jedi, the only one I didn't buy, but I'll still go see this just to cap that story arc off.

Heck, I'll be seeing it simply to see Palpatine again! I want to see just how much of a role he has to play in this final chapter.

I've seen it several times where young kids watched the vintage Star Wars movies and they liked them more than the recent fare.

Yeah, I'm curious about that too. I believe the original plan was to have Anakin conceived by the midichlorians, from being manipulated by Palpatine, so I wonder if that will factor in.

Luke going from savior of the galaxy to bitter washed up recluse could have worked. It probably wouldn't be popular, but you could make a great, if tragic, character study out of it. Now reintroducing a character you haven't seen in 30 years, have him be the opposite for no real reason, and then die pointlessly was a poor way to go about it.

Out of all the Star Wars films that have been made since the originals, the only one I have thoroughly enjoyed has been 'Rogue One' ...

Hey, it's DISNEY! Hollywood on Steroids, no propaganda comes near when it comes to new lows!

Disney completely lost me when "Star destroyers" operated in the atmosphere of planets under full G, i really expected to see Mickey Mouse as the new Jedi.
"Disney: How do we end the saga? JJ: Horses"

Grrrrrrr ok yes i will watch it. IF ONLY TO RANT ABOUT IT!

I'm wondering if the whole movie is going to be like the trailer...1080p @30fps...lol

Seriously, 10 year olds with YT channels output better quality than that.

I don't see the issue with the star destroyers being in the atmospheres of planets under full G, considering all of the other stuff they do. Things like spaceships going through space like jet fighters in an atmosphere, the Millennium Falcon taking off and flying through an atmosphere with absolutely no aerodynamics whatsoever, and Bespin floating in an atmosphere.

Also, Lucas had star destroyers flying in the atmosphere long before he sold it to Disney. Pretty much all of the prequels had that.

absolutely by far the best Star Wars movie since the first two.

"Also, Lucas had star destroyers flying in the atmosphere long before he sold it to Disney. Pretty much all of the prequels had that."

Yeah, when you're watching films like this, you really can't be worried about stuff like that. To tell you the truth, though, I enjoy the Star Trek series more. Heresy, I know. I really like the prequel films. But, that's getting off subject!

My reality is pretty well suspended in sci-fi realms, like Star Wars and Star Trek. But that Star Killer base, with a small planet sucking up the mass of an entire sun, and then spitting it out in little fireballs.... Somehow for me, this pulled me completely out of the film.

I agree, there's only so far you can push things. It would be like if James Bond became bionic or something - as much as they stretch believability in those movies as they are, that would just push it too far in that context. Rogue One used kyber crystals as a power source for the Death Star, and because we don't really have kyber crystals we can't make any guesses as to their power. However, most Star Wars viewers know what a star is like, and how it compares to a planet, so I think that was too much, even in that context.

Movies have always been shown at 24 fps...

I always assumed that Star Wars craft utilized some kind of force field related measures to provide optimal aerodynamics when travelling in an atmosphere.

And even just as an amateur astronomy guy, even someone who finished high school physics... Imagine if the mass of the sun was suddenly transferred into the Earth. All the planets would have to orbit the Earth now. And after firing all the sun away in fireball bits... Now there is no central mass for the system, so the most massive planet would have to serve (sometime in the next galactic epoch), **IF** the planets weren't thrown completely away into space, in the first place.

Hey, throwing planets their orbits off into deep space, to die in darkness with NO SUN! That's like an even worse, diabolical fate than the fireball bombardment thing.

You probably put more thought into it there than the movie-makers did I think they were just interested in making something that looked cool, and made it do what the story required.

Absolutely correct. It's all about having the correct expectations.


Go ahead and critique every single technical and engineering detail for films like 2001, Gravity and Apollo 13 because all of those films were made with the intent from the very outset to be as accurate as possible to real world physics.


But to try and do that critique with outright fantasy stuff like Star Wars and even Star Trek is absurd.

Eh, I already got my ticket for the advanced screening Dec 19. What's done is done, haha.

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I agree with what most have said here -> Meh!

They should have never made this series.

It's pathetic how Rey masters a Light Saber and the Force without training and being able to hold off against an extremely well trained opponent (Kylo Ren)
For example, in the first Star Wars series (Episodes IV, V and VI) it took quite long for Luke Skywalker to become a Master with the Light Saber and the Force.

And I could go on, and on, and on....

From a creative perspective you are absolutely correct. From a business perspective though you better believe Disney was going to recover its investment when it paid George Lucas an estimated 4 billion for the Star Wars franchise.

Well, what I mean is that this series shouldn't be done like this or with this (ridiculous) story. This sucessor trilogy should have been made with much more care about the story or resuming being much better than what it is. Well, guess that great story creativity, specially when it comes to sequels is a thing of the past, go figure...

I understand what you are saying but there is a disconnect between what you and I think is a good story and what Disney thinks is a good story. Film studios simply go by one metric to determine if a story was "good": box office performance.

Had the first Disney Star Wars film (Force Awakens) flopped at the box office, you better believe that the studio would have totally changed its creative direction and come up with something else. Instead what happened? Force Awakens made just over 2 billion dollars world-wide.

I have no interest in seeing The Rise of Skywalker, however the Mandalorian T.V. series might actually be passable.

That looks pretty good...

That was actually a decent movie. I wouldn't have paid theater prices to see it, but I had zero regrets spending 4 bucks (I think) to stream it at home.

FIFY

Should have been the Old Republic time.

That's exactly the problem i found with the film. It was an average decent movie that I enjoyed watching once but that's it. I had zero desire to see it a second time and I quickly forgot many of the details of the story and characters a couple of weeks after I saw the movie.


A very far cry from the effect the original trilogy had on me.

The stories and characters are what still make the original trilogy a pinnacle for me.

My first exposure to any Star Wars movie was when I was maybe 9 years old, and I saw some of Empire during TV broadcast at a friend's house. I didn't get to finish the movie, I only got to watch from the beginning through the asteroid field. But those characters never left my mind. As soon as I got back home, I built myself a Millennium Falcon from Lego, and ran around thinking of Han navigating that asteroid field for days. Imperial walkers on the north ridge.

When I finally got to see all the movies... The story and characters left a mark unlike any other films have ever done.

I wouldn't mind a sequel to Solo, minus the train sequence. But we won't get one.

Your parents didn't take you to see those movies in the theater or drive-in on release?

Deprived doesn't begin to describe what I've just read...

Hell, MY daughter saw them when she was 4.x and she's 9 now. But most of us on SimHQ are likely old enough to have seen the movies when they first came out.

Episode IV is the very first movie I remember seeing in a movie theater. I was 4 years old since I remember my dad telling me that we saw it in the summer of 1977 and I didn't turn 5 until later in October.

We weren't much of a movie theater family. We did go to a handful of films, but those were "meh" to me in the long run, and I generally cared nothing about theater movies, I was all into TV series as a boy. Scooby Doo, Knight Rider, Fall Guy (I had the metal lunch box!), Transformers (yes the very first episodes and toys!), Buck Rogers, and GI Joe. I had tons of those toys, and watched the shows, they were all I cared about. A few friends had loads of Star Wars toys, but I had no idea what they were about!

I remember watching the "Ewok Adventure" and "Battle for Endor" TV movies. But these didn't excite me or my interest in the Star Wars universe in any way. I'm not even sure I finished watching them to the end.

When the OT was first in release, it just wasn't on my interest or radar. I do remember one Christmas, my parents offered to buy me a Star Wars ride-on toy... IIRC it was the Millennium Falcon guns from ANH, featured in the scene where Luke and Han fight the Ties escaping the Death Star. But this wasn't interesting to me. No way. I knew what I wanted in the Wards Catalog. An electric 4x4 ride-on truck, black with orange and yellow stripes, opening hood and tail gate, and of course, a CB radio like Dad's truck. It was a close to Fall Guy and Bigfoot as I could get. I drove the wheels off that thing.

I made the colossal mistake of watching those. Even as a kid I knew they were junk. About the only thing worse than those tv movies in the SW universe is the 1978 TV Holiday Special.

On another note, is it just me or is Rey a "but her face?"

If you're just talking about her physical looks, I think she's attractive. Shots without makeup, or with makeup to make her look plain, and with an odd expression, can make anyone look less attractive.

Here's a view that I think shows what she probably looks like when normally out and about:

No one twisted Lucas’s arm to sell. If he doesn’t like what Disney has done then tough!!

Hilarious parody video by the way.

The Lucas impression is impressive! "[this] makes Attack of the Clones look like Citizen Kane" LOL!

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Outside of Star Wars I find her very attractive. Here is to hoping the Hutts capture her.

Helped blow up a death star planet and was there at Snoke's perishment and survived the battle of salt planet......not enough glitter to make a Hutt brave enough to put a bikini on her.