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#4493099 - 10/16/19 01:29 AM Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin?  
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I thought I had downloaded the full boat of historical skins - I remember downloading and installing a rather large pack of skins awhile back for WOFF UE. I have WOFF PE now, and the skins generally work. However, I can't find Billy Bishop's Nieuport skin anywhere in the list. I looked under the various models, but nothing in my list. Does anyone have a source for his blue/silver Nieuport? I'd like to use it sometimes in quick combat - it's an attractive color scheme.

#4493103 - 10/16/19 02:11 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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I just did a file search and apparently I have the files, but they don't appear in the skin list in the game(?). I'm not sure why that is. The other ace skins appear. The labels seem to match the other files that work. What gives?

#4493110 - 10/16/19 06:20 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Skins not appearing in the game because of incorrect naming seems to be a hot topic these days.
Guess I didn’t realize the names have been changing. Why are they changing...? Changes to a planes .mdl file could be it.

As a skin junky I get them all. Now I wonder how many are just taking up space.

#4493239 - 10/16/19 10:28 PM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Apparently the Graham Conacher skin is the same as the Billy Bishop skin, so I just started selecting that. I can't find an issue with the label on the Bishop skin as was the case with the extra "N" on the Nieuport 23 aircraft. Confusing.

#4493313 - 10/17/19 04:26 PM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Are you sure you are looking at the correct model of Nieuport 23? There are the Vickers and Lewis armed versions and both have their own skins. Could you paste the full filename of the skin is question here?

#4493375 - 10/18/19 12:04 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Off_Nieuport17_Lewis_ace_t_RFC-60 1917_William A 'Billy'_Bishop

Off_Nieuport23_Lewis_ace_t_RFC-60 1917_William A 'Billy'_Bishop

Off_Se5_ace_t_RFC-60 1917_William A 'Billy'_Bishop

Off_Se5a-viper_ace_t_RAF-85 1918_William A 'Billy'_Bishop.dds

#4493386 - 10/18/19 02:44 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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That is an odd case. Turns out none of the Bishop's skins are showing for me either even though I have the files.

I did some testing and if the Surname in file name starts with "Bis", it won't show in the game... The skin Off_Se5a-viper_ace_t_RFC-24 1918_Charles Arthur_Bissonette.dds is also missing for example. My guess is that the _Bis part of the name somehow messes with the "Bis" planes that have _Bis in their model names (e.g. off_NieuportN24_Bis).

Luckily Bishop and Bisonette files seem to be the only ones affected and you can get them to show up in QC by changing the surnames. That means they aren't and won't be showing up in the campaigns before the issues is fixed at code level though.

#4493418 - 10/18/19 09:02 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Thanks if we get time we'll check.

Duke, the Noop23 skins are a mod if you recall, and they have the wrong names - it's not too dramatic.


WOFF really is just too massive - our fault for making it so comprehensive and detailed. Most sims do not bother with this detail for this reason.


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#4493423 - 10/18/19 09:16 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Thanks Pol.
WOFF is massive and has been around for a long while. Also massive is my “Skins” folder which I keep between UE installs as what is official, unofficial, official fixes, unofficial fixes, corrections, and “nice-to-haves” in the Skin Department has been lost to me over time.

#4493458 - 10/18/19 12:56 PM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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This skin issue of aces skins with "Bis" at start of surname not showing etc - Fixed in 5.03


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#4493464 - 10/18/19 01:19 PM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Thanks Pol!

#4493522 - 10/18/19 08:29 PM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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That's an interesting discovery. Glad to hear a fix is on the way. That was a very fast response. Thanks!

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#4493548 - 10/18/19 11:42 PM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted by DukeIronHand
Thanks Pol.
WOFF is massive and has been around for a long while. Also massive is my “Skins” folder which I keep between UE installs as what is official, unofficial, official fixes, unofficial fixes, corrections, and “nice-to-haves” in the Skin Department has been lost to me over time.

For sure Duke, even default the skins are nearly 7000 - completely nuts!


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#4493553 - 10/19/19 12:05 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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It is but I love it.
How cool is it to bump into dozens of aircraft over the front and most have a unique skin? No other sim can boast that I believe. And not made up stuff but true knowledge and history as much as is humanly possible.
And I guess I can confess that I sometimes have a cup of tea and just kick back and tour the Skin folder while waiting for a big download. So much history and knowledge there. And if I find something especially interesting I research it further.
Reckon if there ever is a “WOFF Nerd of the Year” award I’ll be in the running.

#4493586 - 10/19/19 11:51 AM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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edit. wrong thread

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#4493664 - 10/19/19 06:23 PM Re: Source for Billy Bishop Nieuport Skin? [Re: SirMike1983]  
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Yeah nuts but good,
Haha Duke these days that may be a great award to pick up wink


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