#4493064 - 10/15/19 10:08 PM
WOFF Exhaust Smoke
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Mike Dora
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First of all, my compliments to the whole WOFF dev team. WOFF PE is a masterpiece. It is by far the most immersive sim I have ever experienced (My first flight simulator experience was the Vulcan simulator at Waddington back in Dec 74, very early in my RAF career. It was somewhat crude and clumsy (as was my attempt to "fly" it!), but an awfully long time ago.. ; )
I have only one comment, intended of course as constructive criticism. I'm not convinced by the plumes of exhaust smoke trailing behind each ac.
Not only do these exhaust plumes not appear in period photographs, but also I am privileged to be volunteer ground crew at Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome here in Dutchess County NY, and none of our ac trail such smoke when they are airborne. This includes all of the original WW1 engines (the 1918 Mercedes in the Fok DVII, the Hispano-Suiza in the Jenny, the Gnome in the Fok DVIII (160hp, and incredibly noisy), and the Le Rhone in the Pup). True, they sometimes start with a great cloud of smoke, but once they settle down their exhaust outputs are quite clear.
So can I make a plea please for the deletion of this unrealistic exhaust smoke? In addition to further enhancing WOFF PE's extreme realism, such a deletion would likely also deliver a further slight frame rate improvement.
Cheers
Mike
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#4493104 - 10/16/19 03:23 AM
Re: WOFF Exhaust Smoke
[Re: DukeIronHand]
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VonS
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Just to be contrary to stimulate thought I would think the oil and gas of 1914-18 is not as clean and refined as the modern stuff?
Anywhere from about 50 to low 70s octane in WWI, although octane ratings were not applied until the 1920s. Then again, such dirty fuel is fine for most of the low-compression engines used back then, especially the rotaries. By 1918, the Germans were on occasion spiking their fuel with benzole/benzene ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzole), such as for the BMW-powered Fokk. D.VII, also possibly other higher-compression experiments (later Mercedes inlines, Daimler engines, etc.) - gives less engine knock and better overall performance...max hp usage. Von S
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#4493106 - 10/16/19 04:03 AM
Re: WOFF Exhaust Smoke
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OvStachel
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I have to agree with you... and I am an aircraft mechanic. You only get exhaust trails at low altitude if you are burning heavy amounts of oil. Any kind of gas simply won't do it unless it's EXTREMELY rich, and even then it won't show for long. Normal gas exhaust just dissipates too fast in the atmosphere to stay in a cloud.
PS... I don't call myself the 'Black Baron of Boistrancourt' because I don't know where Rhinebeck is... LOL... I LOVE THAT PLACE!!! I know I missed the last show for the year (its this weekend, but my daughter is up from college) , but if you're there next year, I'd love to come up from Long Island, shake a had and get up-close and personal with some of the planes if I could.
Last edited by OvStachel; 10/16/19 04:08 AM.
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#4493109 - 10/16/19 06:14 AM
Re: WOFF Exhaust Smoke
[Re: VonS]
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DukeIronHand
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Just to be contrary to stimulate thought I would think the oil and gas of 1914-18 is not as clean and refined as the modern stuff?
Anywhere from about 50 to low 70s octane in WWI, although octane ratings were not applied until the 1920s. Then again, such dirty fuel is fine for most of the low-compression engines used back then, especially the rotaries. By 1918, the Germans were on occasion spiking their fuel with benzole/benzene ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzole), such as for the BMW-powered Fokk. D.VII, also possibly other higher-compression experiments (later Mercedes inlines, Daimler engines, etc.) - gives less engine knock and better overall performance...max hp usage. Von S Knew we’d have the knowledge in here. Thanks VonS. Now. Who’s gonna take a crack at the OP’s request...
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#4493409 - 10/18/19 06:07 AM
Re: WOFF Exhaust Smoke
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DukeIronHand
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Thanks orbyxP. Clearly you have the effects.xml by the tail. May give its try just to see what happens. Who knows? Maybe I’ll like it. Got the above cut & pasted for my Library of WOFF Knowledge.
EDIT: OP please note that the effects file is in two places. Change both and that should fix your “changes being changed” problem. Forgot about that. Since I've been playing this game for 10+ years(?) I have forgotten more about it then I currently remember I think..
Last edited by DukeIronHand; 10/18/19 06:57 AM.
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