#4491177 - 10/02/19 08:06 PM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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Over our many years of developing aircraft................ Let me know when ED or any 3rd party have actually finished one of the modules....and then I'll have a think about entertaining some of the unfinished and never-intended-to-be-finished content
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#4491183 - 10/02/19 08:49 PM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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Ok - easier to buy from Steam as it uses local currency. We should see the Viper texture template soon, it sounds like the 3D model is now finalized. Need all you quality painters on the job, so many cool paint schemes out there for the Viper.
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#4491273 - 10/03/19 01:35 PM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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What a poor trailer in one day i can do better.i understand that the whole module is of this quality?
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#4491295 - 10/03/19 04:46 PM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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What a poor trailer in one day i can do better.i understand that the whole module is of this quality? Go for it!
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#4491311 - 10/03/19 06:21 PM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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Sorry I can not believe that such a company release the most important module make such a hopeless trailer. These are only cut and randomly bonded shots. Watch the old amraam trailers, see how make good movies.
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#4491388 - 10/04/19 07:46 AM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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Sorry I can not believe that such a company release the most important module make such a hopeless trailer. These are only cut and randomly bonded shots. Watch the old amraam trailers, see how make good movies. Must have missed the memo from a year or so ago......
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#4491389 - 10/04/19 08:31 AM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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Well for my part I won't be buying this for a while. I am excited for the F-16 in DCS, but ED has a long history of not finishing it's modules. This is not new, and I belive they will once finish it... kind of. Lets look at the past. The A-10C took years to be in a "released" state and after it was so, it still has bugs things that don't work or get constantly broken. Yes it's very playable now, has a lot more features, but it ED has shown time and time again that they are not going to prioritize to actually finish their modules. Now I don't know how much money they actually make compared to their expenses making this modules but people aren't getting what they paid for. And I the business module of pumping out new modules to paying for finishing the old ones, is eighter going to leave a lot of modules unfinished forever or going to fail completly at one point. I think DCS is a great product but it has a lot of "buts" about it. And one of the major ones is certainly the way ED tottaly disrespects their costumers. Their modules are getting increasingly expensive even without getting increassingly complex. From ED's own description the F-16 and F-18 are rather similar share a lot of developing common ground and are about the same complexity wise. Yet the F-16 is getting a 10 dollar price increase over the f-18 a little over a year ago. The only other product sold by this price was the F-14 wich is a greater complexity product that has a very diferent front/back seat functionality and will eventually include two flyable versions. It's still expensive, but I can see how to justify it. Releasing the F-16 at the same price range feels like money grabing. "It worked for heatblurs F-14, lets go for it!" Also lets not forget that before the f-18 the release price for modules was 60 bucks not 70, but lets just go with 80 now. Is this ED trying to stay economicaly viable? If that's the case why keep the disconted pre-order period? You are just robing yourself of part of the products? Or is it just psychological tactics to get the sale out, actually realizing there will be few sales at full price? In any case it feels like money grabing to me, specially considering that the product that the client is paying now won't be finished for a long time and when it is deemed finished it will still have more problems than you can shake a stick at for twice as long still. But the real disrespect to costumers comes when ED in the most totalitarist way possible tries to silent all "discent". You can say whatever you want about their right to manage their forum however they see fit. But that's actually not correct, because that forum is not only a place for the comunity, it's also their "suport" forum. They can only get away with their practices because they are a eastern based company, what an absolute apawling disregard for consumer rights. Want to see a product forum that respects their costumers rights? Frontier Developments! Elite Dangerous has a lot of problems and I'm amazed at the #%&*$# that get's said in that forum towards the game and the developers. But you know what, they don't get deleted and people don't get banned. Not for fair criticism and not even for unfair criticism. They just take it. "The costumer is always right!" Gess they never heard of that one on Eagle Dynamics.
Long story short? I'll almost certainly still give ED my money, but only in 2 years or so when the Viper is sold at half price. I have BMS and I have more DCS modules than I have the time to learn properly.
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#4491396 - 10/04/19 10:31 AM
Re: DCS: F-16C Viper
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^^^ AMEN. F16 will be completed in 5 -10 years from now. Wasted money.
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