#4488719 - 09/06/19 11:31 PM
Re: EAW and Win 10
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I failed in casual efforts with EAW 1.2 and 1.6 to run on my Win 10 machine. When I get back from vacation I am going to really get serious about getting them working.
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#4490184 - 09/21/19 07:38 PM
Re: EAW and Win 10
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Okay, then goto link: https://eaw.neocities.org/troubleshoot.html#winregScroll down to the bold underline topic: Windows 8.1/10 Compatibility Layer There is a brief description and manual registry values to enter, or the quick method outlined at the end of that topic.
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#4490191 - 09/21/19 08:42 PM
Re: EAW and Win 10
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Unfortunately I can't help you troubleshoot that much - EAW worked with my windows10 system without a hitch in D3D right off the bat. I can add though, and this may be useful to some, having very recently attempted the glide route (which does look better vs D3D, tbh) is that DgVoodoo did not work with my system at all - it just wouldn't do glide with it at all, no matter what settings I used or played around with. However, I was able to get it working just fine when I used NGlide instead, for what it is worth.
Win10/ i5-7600/ 16GB RAM/ GTX1660 Super
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#4491758 - 10/06/19 09:08 PM
Re: EAW and Win 10
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nGlide i belive now supports AA settings in the video control panel, and some other settings get passed. Its probably best to use nGlide over 'semi'- native DX support from win10.
There are other APIs you can use too. I use GL as a means to play the game, cleans up the old terrain shimmer nausing effect. I use a old dll and config fille from 2004 I think it was, that works well.
I havn't found a option/setting yet with any of the other Wrappers or API's to clean the shimmer up unfornatly, and no one reported any find either.
I've mentioned somewhere that the terrain shimmer can be removed, at least in Windows 7 and in Direct X, using 4xMultisampling combined with 4xSparseGridSupersampling. There is also an old farm terrain tile that shimmers which can be fixed using an alternative farm.
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#4491760 - 10/06/19 09:33 PM
Re: EAW and Win 10
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Oh yeah, I remember now SkyHigh. (Your old thread) https://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4451547/1If I recalled it took some reg tweaking via a nvidia tweak tool or something with similar name. I'm not sure thats practical for everyone as I used that tool before, but didn't have much a clue what i was doing. There-ore I couldn't suggest it for everyday use or begin writing how to use it on my help site Is there a way to adjust those two settings via the Nvidia Video Control Panel? If so then i'd like to know more. EDIT: I tried several MSAA and AA Transparency override settings in the Video Control Panel, but Couldn't get anything but smoother edges on planes. (jagged edge lines). 2x Override AA 4x Supersample Trans AA and MFAA ON. All this didn't produce the smoothed down terrain shimmer and it only slowed things down considerably. I guess that super sample your talking about is I guess only in that tool. EDIT2: I given NVIDIA Inspector another shot, but I can't find either setting under the EAW Profile in that program. Could you fill me in here? (I'm using the latest tool and video driver.) - If I have to roll back the vid driver its not worth it to me. EDIT3: Using the NVIDIA Inspector and after finding the settings, I was unable to reproduce the effect. I had terrain shimmering at all times. A Side note I tried to break the 30fps in DX mode but could not.
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#4491806 - 10/07/19 07:54 AM
Re: EAW and Win 10
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Oh yeah, I remember now SkyHigh. (Your old thread) https://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4451547/1If I recalled it took some reg tweaking via a nvidia tweak tool or something with similar name. I'm not sure thats practical for everyone as I used that tool before, but didn't have much a clue what i was doing. There-ore I couldn't suggest it for everyday use or begin writing how to use it on my help site Is there a way to adjust those two settings via the Nvidia Video Control Panel? If so then i'd like to know more. EDIT: I tried several MSAA and AA Transparency override settings in the Video Control Panel, but Couldn't get anything but smoother edges on planes. (jagged edge lines). 2x Override AA 4x Supersample Trans AA and MFAA ON. All this didn't produce the smoothed down terrain shimmer and it only slowed things down considerably. I guess that super sample your talking about is I guess only in that tool. EDIT2: I given NVIDIA Inspector another shot, but I can't find either setting under the EAW Profile in that program. Could you fill me in here? (I'm using the latest tool and video driver.) - If I have to roll back the vid driver its not worth it to me. EDIT3: Using the NVIDIA Inspector and after finding the settings, I was unable to reproduce the effect. I had terrain shimmering at all times. A Side note I tried to break the 30fps in DX mode but could not. Yes, one needs NVIDIA Inspector. As far as I can remember, I had to create my own profile in it, not sure if it comes already installed in the programme. I don't know anything about your driver, I'm using a fairly old one (maybe 2017). Works well for me, but I also do not get greater than 30 fps in DX. However, it is a very steady rate and seems perfectly smooth to me.
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#4492111 - 10/09/19 12:18 AM
Re: EAW and Win 10
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Well, I'm a #%&*$# fool, and finding that getting the ancient Crimson Skies having ALL its' internal Graphics features unlocked just might require Gfx cards far above the usual ones required for EAW use. For example can play Crimson Skies with internal Gfx features enabled (finally)--But only with a modern computer, and very modern Gfx card, to wit: Nvidia 2060 OC PRO. NOT cutting edge, but not to far from the edge, either.
All my EAW installs on my win 7 machine, using Nvidia 730 Gfx card work OK. That's pretty ancient computer, but probably not to different from what many legacy computers are using, Using SSDs.
Now, on my very modern Win 10 computer, I have a complete copy of my entire Win 7 drive, selected as a "Slave" drive. When I go to that drive, and select a particular game, I can play it through the very modern Gfx card. Playing some games directly through Win 10 is problematic, and so this thread.
IOW, I can play all versions of EAW on Win 7 computer. Unsure that same versions will play "through" Win 10. Can't play same versions of EAW on Win 10 computer directly.
Granted, my situation is a 'different' one, and ought to take a back-seat to newbies trying to get EAW running in any Opsys. Just mentioning it for future reference.
Call me confused.
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