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#4487847 - 08/29/19 05:16 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
maybe we will see a combat sim version of FX2020 again.


That would be worth seeing!

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#4487851 - 08/29/19 05:56 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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with Microprose back as well we can look forward to some very interesting releases and P3D will surely release v5 in a way that matches MS2020 new features.

#4487964 - 08/30/19 03:23 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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I'm really looking forward to MS new FS. Here are some of the clips they shared through their Insider Program:



https://youtu.be/Jkzn71ES6Vk



https://youtu.be/ZL9jWnQjfL8

Edit: embedding YT videos seem broken, added direct links

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#4487971 - 08/30/19 03:58 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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someone knows what he is doing to make FS2020 gorgeous smile

#4487992 - 08/30/19 07:14 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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Just imagine that in a combat sim!

#4488006 - 08/30/19 08:36 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted by Trooper117
Just imagine that in a combat sim!


it would be a game changer

#4488175 - 09/02/19 12:23 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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Could it REALLY possibly look like that!? I'll hold off on buying any XP-11 add-ons. If the microsoft sim looks that good and the FM's are well done, It will have to to be uninstalled!


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#4488191 - 09/02/19 11:43 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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the bigger question maybe is - what kind of rig you will need to run it ...

I am sure that both P3D and XP11 will release their next version to match MS2020 - so it is more a question of having another flight sim rather than replacing the one you already have.

#4488198 - 09/02/19 01:22 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Trooper117]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
with FX2020 and Microprose we have now new options - maybe we will see a combat sim version of FX2020 again.


Originally Posted by Trooper117
Just imagine that in a combat sim!


That would be a dream come true!!!

#4488218 - 09/02/19 06:23 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted by Pooch
Could it REALLY possibly look like that!? I'll hold off on buying any XP-11 add-ons. If the microsoft sim looks that good and the FM's are well done, It will have to to be uninstalled!


Why uninstall ? HDD/SSD's are cheap enough, you can have more than one sim installed.


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#4488244 - 09/03/19 01:21 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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when I get MS2020 I am sure going to keep my P3D installed.

A dream come true for me would be an FS2020 combat simulator with the F-86 Sabre and MiG-15 and a Korean War map ... that would really be something great.

#4488576 - 09/06/19 12:10 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted by Pooch
Could it REALLY possibly look like that!? I'll hold off on buying any XP-11 add-ons. If the microsoft sim looks that good and the FM's are well done, It will have to to be uninstalled!


With a 2 PETABYTE scenery database, for sure!

Definitely (to me) the most justifiable case of "Internet Connection Required" ever...

That'll not only exceed Google Earth quality level (since it's specifically designed for a flightsim AND doesn't have to deal with all the other layers), it'll take a TON of the heavy lifting off of the local machine...

Only downside is anyone stuck with crappy bandwidth probably won't get the full experience...

A barely off topic observation here - I used to max out the hard drive cache with Google Earth. I'd first go to where the "globe" was maybe 25% larger than the screen and cache the whole planet at that level, then repeat just a bit deeper, then go all the way with my own area and certain others.

That USED to make things happen faster. But nowadays? It's faster to have NO cache and just stream every time - to say nothing of the drastically lower disk usage...

Obviously my internet speed isn't faster than even my somewhat old hard disk, but for the OS to search through 2 gigs of cached data and sort that out? 75 megabit connection wins, and by no small margin. Oh, and it guarantees the latest imagery too...





#4488579 - 09/06/19 12:34 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
the more the merrier biggrin

LM with P3D and XPlane have raised the bar a lot and MS would need quite a lot of effort to match their quality , but I hope that MS does not go the easy way and targets the entertainment side of flight sims with a lightweight game.


That already happened - Microsoft Flight.

We all (and MS too) know how that turned out...

It's been said by the developers "We are making Microsoft Flight Simulator. Emphasis on the word SIMULATOR."

I see no reason to doubt the claim. They've got the money, they've got the experience, they've got the FAILED experience of "Flight", and it's product brand that's known even to people who've never used it.

MSFS was (and might still be) the biggest selling piece of entertainment software for computers in history...

I forget the name, but I knew from the beginning that "hotshot" they put in charge of Flight was completely wrong in his approach. But I had a REAL hard time believing we'd never see another MSFS.

In recent years I was starting to believe maybe we wouldn't. It'd had been so long...

But then again I guess a pretty massive time interval was necessary both to "rebuild from scratch" and to be able to say "Sorry, the addons you bought 13, 14, or 18 years ago simply ain't going to work with this"...

#4488595 - 09/06/19 03:28 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
the bigger question maybe is - what kind of rig you will need to run it ...

I am sure that both P3D and XP11 will release their next version to match MS2020 - so it is more a question of having another flight sim rather than replacing the one you already have.


Possibly not much of a rig at all! Having the entire scenery database outsourced from the local machine is a HUGE thing - ever seen any flightsim load that as fast as Google Earth does? (assuming a decent internet connection, and I mean by today's standards, not "2009"...)

But even around FSX in 2006 I remember wishing for a "flightsim that streamed the scenery like Google Earth"...

I severely hope I'm not wrong, but I think they're going to hit it out of the ballpark with this one...

#4488926 - 09/10/19 03:30 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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With these fantabulous graphics, I am scared it will need a very expensive PC and a full terrabyte drive to run it.... If they could match real places (like google earth) with these graphics , I am sold.


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#4488927 - 09/10/19 03:32 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Zamzow]  
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"I am sure that both P3D and XP11 will release their next version to match MS2020 - so it is more a question of having another flight sim rather than replacing the one you already have"

both don't have MS unlimited resources and money to match this level of ultra realistic details and lightings...


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#4488943 - 09/10/19 10:59 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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Lockheed Martin sure does huge resources and by P3D in v4 going 64bits + PBR they are aiming at ultra realistic details etc. - P3D terrain and environment can already use PBR and they have the support of a sizeable number of developers that individually can match whatever MS releases.

what no one knows yet is how MS plans to rejoin the FS community, their last attempt was a money grab and it flopped, this time all of us are hoping that they revert to their traditional way of an open SDK and free to develop and sell approach, of course now they have P3D to share their community with.

#4489393 - 09/13/19 05:50 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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Some more eyecandy from recent update:



https://youtu.be/PcVt3Ulyszw

#4490287 - 09/23/19 01:21 AM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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I can't do it lol I've spent at least a $1000 on FSX and after last crash lost half of it. I'll stick to DayZ, American Truck and SB Pro from now on.

#4490934 - 09/30/19 08:42 PM Re: New Microsoft Flight Simulator announced ! [Re: Roudou]  
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