#4487797 - 08/29/19 07:27 AM
Re: Running old EAW utilities
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DOSBox also runs on Linux. I haven't tried it as previously like others I used an old XP or earlier machine for these old tools. Windows 95 Is Now Available as an App for Windows, macOS and Linuxbut note that what will function in this version is probably minimal, its not a 'full version' its experimental. ------------------- Linux Tips: Some "Live" disks / usb isos like antiX even have dosbox preinstalled: dosbox search at Ditrowatch You could make a LIve USB or Disk image or one with persistence http://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-17/FAQ/persistence.html Mint doesn't have it pre-installed but can install it from software repositories which are accessed from the built-in "Software Manager". For a dedicated machine for old games Sparky Linux GameOver edition is chock full of games https://sparkylinux.org/ - even runs on RasberryPi. Has a "Live" disk https://sparkylinux.org/wiki/doku.php/start but not dosbox installed. a bit more complicated Linux stuff; You can boot some disk "LIVE" iso image from your hard drive or usb if they have what's called a loopback iso. To do this you either use Grub (Grub2) or rEFInd ------------------- other tips for VM etc. M$ used to have XP VM images. When you use VM (Virtual machine) you need a special image. You can create these yourself but its a hassle, you have to install it. You can even get an image off the HDD hidden partition of many factory PC's and Laptops. Anf you can also migrate an existing system to a VM image. Search Google. --- Old Disks. Old Windows disks used to have the previous version of the OS on the disk also in a tools or extras folder. For example msdos 6.22 thats the last old 'dos' although there were earlier many versions of dos the msdos 6.22 is not very useful frankly you better use msdos 7 for EAW era stuff in fact most won't even work on msdos 6.22 fyi Windows since 95 used MSdos 7.0 That is actually what most people now might remember the windows 95 commandline or cmd. It could run most older ex; win 3.1 or "msdos' games and many of the EAW era programs. ------ Personally I recommend a dedicated machine is much friendlier than LIve disks especially for repeated use. If you are a hobbyist just have another machine for your old games and save a lot of headaches. Dual boot is another way but gets techinical and old also because Windows constantly comes up with ways to hose your other OS setup.
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#4488096 - 08/31/19 11:49 PM
Re: Running old EAW utilities
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Call me crazy, call me stupid, but don't call me late to dinner.
As a preface, Win 7 has an inherent, albeit rather limited capability within the Win 7 OS, to set up a Win XP Virtual Machine. It turns out, as with most other Virtual Machines, that the capabilities of the VM are limited, and not really well-suited to playing resource-hungry flight sims. In short, the VM feature is, as stated, is a limited capacity feature that is not well-suited for playing full-fledged flight sims--at least not modern ones. Fine for testing, but not really satisfactory for full-on gaming. No expert, personally, but all the advice I got steered me away from VM and Dual Boot computers. I used to toy with the VM concept, and Dual-Boot concept. After reading-up, I did the following.
When I was setting-up my Win 10 gaming computer, I took my older Win 7 computer, along with virgin Win 10 computer, to my computer guy, and told him to set things up so I could access all the Win 7 stuff, and play the games contained within that separate HDD drive. IIRC, he did a clone of the ENTIRE Win 7 drive, and configured it as a "Slave drive" to the Win 10 computer. 2 Tb SSDs all-around. Plenty of room, and very fast.
So far, there isn't a single game I've tried, using the Win 7 Slave drive on my Win 10 computer, that doesn't work on my Win 10 system. All the games play using the vastly upgraded CPU, RAM, and GFX card now available on the Win 10 computer. VMMV. How this all works, I dunno, but it WORKS.
So, there you have it. Will probably discard the Win 7 computer fairly soon. No longer any need for it.
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#4488241 - 09/03/19 12:57 AM
Re: Running old EAW utilities
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I gave up on Virtual Machine approach, as the feature had some serious, inherent limitations. It is useful for testing, but not running as a separate, resource-hungry computer. Not the intended purpose of VM, as far as I know.
Dual Boot requires a CLEAN install of the alterative OS--and NOT a copy from another computer. Then one installs the desired programs into the alterative OS. After a CLEAN install of an alternate OS, and paying the $ for It, One will need to re-install everything into it. NO copy and paste, a complete re-install. This is starting over, from the beginning. It WILL work, but at a serious time/effort expense..
OTOH, I have a Win 7 drive, copied in its entirety that is set up as a "Slave Drive" on my win 10 computer. It uses the existing win 10 computer resources, and Gfx card, and plays very nicely. YMMV.
So far, and NO expert, can't tell the difference between the sims played on the Slave drive, and identical sims played on the native Win 10 system.
YMMV and all that, but I am playing Win 7 games never installed on my win 10 computer via the "Slave drive" So far, so good.. I don't claim that I know how this works, but it works for me. YMMV. .
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