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#4486513 - 08/17/19 06:01 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Yes, but he wanted me to only have a small steak once a month if that.


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#4486514 - 08/17/19 06:15 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I occasionally (usually during summer) go for a vegan "burger" at this one place, I think what makes it go down well with me is the fact that they're not even remotely trying to insinuate it as any form of meat replacement.

Or maybe just my similar attitude about it - I'm definitely not expecting a beef patty substitute when I eat something like this, I'm purposely going for something a bit on the lighter/refreshing side but not so far as just rolling with salad...

#4486516 - 08/17/19 07:05 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I feel doctors all have a lot of opinions Just because they have DR in front of their name doesn't make them infallible.but more or less opinionated...I've been through numerous doctors this summer and every one had a different opinion on what was wrong..Hey the Doc could be vegan I think he might eat more than one small steak a month I usually have one a week either steak or roast beef Just not to excess..Easy to search online and see all the differing opinions on what amount is more or less healthy and seems no one agrees


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#4486525 - 08/17/19 09:36 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Beacause everyone is different. Best you can do is experiment, know your numbers and be aware of changes in your body. Personally, I need more red meat due to being fairly anemic.


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#4486526 - 08/17/19 09:43 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I'd be curious to try a burger patty made of some form of ground up insects. Long as I can't visually recognize any of it as being insects I could do it. Seems to me that would probably approximate true meat better than anything plant based could...

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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Beacause everyone is different. Best you can do is experiment, know your numbers and be aware of changes in your body. Personally, I need more red meat due to being fairly anemic.


I agree RK...I try to be a bit varied in my diet and get a bit of everything...Must be working I'm 70 and the same weight as in H.S. 6' 3" around the mid 170's..All this food talk makes me want to order a pizza with everything..Like I said i listen to DR's but don't treat them like their words came off the MT on stone tablets,,Heck I still remember the 50's and 60's when a doc might smoke while talking to you


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#4486531 - 08/17/19 11:08 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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"Trust but verify" applies to a lot of situations! Be your own advocate.


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#4486532 - 08/17/19 11:16 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I like that RK..Mostly my body tells me whats right


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#4486534 - 08/17/19 11:27 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: rwatson]  
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Originally Posted by rwatson
I feel doctors all have a lot of opinions Just because they have DR in front of their name doesn't make them infallible.but more or less opinionated...I've been through numerous doctors this summer and every one had a different opinion on what was wrong..Hey the Doc could be vegan I think he might eat more than one small steak a month I usually have one a week either steak or roast beef Just not to excess..Easy to search online and see all the differing opinions on what amount is more or less healthy and seems no one agrees


You are exactly right about doctors. You could ask ten different doctors the same question, and get ten different answers. Before all my medical issues, I used to only eat meat once a week. In the winter, I would crave meat more often. I really miss it know.


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#4486543 - 08/18/19 02:42 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Chemical bath crap. No way. Not eating that.

#4486553 - 08/18/19 06:31 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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What about ... pizza, then?


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Always works for me Ssnake best of both worlds veggies and meat so I don't have to decide


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#4486599 - 08/18/19 06:37 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I find the Beyond Burger to be a fairly average imitation of a nice beef burger. There is something still mkssing like the texture for example even of the flavor is getting closer.

The Impossible Burger on the other hand, I was really impressed. This is coming from a guy that really loves meat. I will definitely try impossible burger again. May even opt for it occasionally instead of beef.


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#4486642 - 08/19/19 10:34 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ

the world can not sustain a meat diet anymore, .



The free market will eventually determine that. If and when fast food burgers cost $15 and a simple sirloin steak costs $30 then we'll talk.


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Originally Posted by Spidey
There is something still mkssing like the texture for example even of the flavor is getting closer.




Both the texture and the lack of juicyness is really what killed it for me with the Beyond Burger.


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#4486652 - 08/19/19 12:02 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
The free market will eventually determine that. If and when fast food burgers cost $15 and a simple sirloin steak costs $30 then we'll talk.

I think the prices would need to climb higher. This is what you approximately pay for when visiting McD or a steakhouse restaurant in Germany - admittedly for the whole meal, not "just the burger", maybe 30% less than your suggested price target, and it doesn't have such a big effect on per-capita meat consumption in Germany (which is pretty high up there, per world standards). Now, Germany is certainly a rich country with a high per-capita income and similarly inflated costs of living, so looking at this one example is only of limited educational value. But then again, I eat maybe 20 burgers over the course of an entire year, and maybe an equal number or less of steaks, which probably ranks on the lower/middle part of the scale for non-vegetarians from Europe/North America even though it's undoubtedly well above world average.
So, 20 x $15 + 15 x $30.- = $750.- for "meat meals" per year is still not such a big fraction of your annual costs of living if you look at the total grocery bill (not counting costs of living, owning a car, temperature regulation, warm water, electricity, ...)

Of course, if a burger is the daily standard for five out of seven days, interrupted by steak days, then we're talking about 260 burgers and 105 steaks, or $7,000.- per year for meat consumption.

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Originally Posted by Ssnake


Of course, if a burger is the daily standard for five out of seven days, interrupted by steak days, then we're talking about 260 burgers and 105 steaks, or $7,000.- per year for meat consumption.



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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Spidey
There is something still mkssing like the texture for example even of the flavor is getting closer.




Both the texture and the lack of juicyness is really what killed it for me with the Beyond Burger.


How big was it and where did it come from?
That's one reason I don't want to bother with it at BK. The videos I've seen of this and the other "meat" are always really thick but smallish burgers. I figured that was to maximize the juicy appearance. It's hard enough for real meat to be much good as a thin patty, seems like one of these would up the difficulty.


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#4486712 - 08/19/19 09:02 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: LB4LB]  
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Originally Posted by rwatson
I feel doctors all have a lot of opinions Just because they have DR in front of their name doesn't make them infallible.but more or less opinionated...I've been through numerous doctors this summer and every one had a different opinion on what was wrong..Hey the Doc could be vegan I think he might eat more than one small steak a month I usually have one a week either steak or roast beef Just not to excess..Easy to search online and see all the differing opinions on what amount is more or less healthy and seems no one agrees


You are exactly right about doctors. You could ask ten different doctors the same question, and get ten different answers. Before all my medical issues, I used to only eat meat once a week. In the winter, I would crave meat more often. I really miss it know.


There's a reason they call it "practicing medicine."

#4486738 - 08/20/19 12:34 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Blade_RJ

the world can not sustain a meat diet anymore, .



The free market will eventually determine that. If and when fast food burgers cost $15 and a simple sirloin steak costs $30 then we'll talk.



That'll happen eventually via inflation alone. Now whether corporate greed makes it happen sooner is another question. I'm POSITIVE the reason so many local "Mom and Pop" places (at least in my city) are killing the big names in terms of price and quality is because they're not having to send so much money "to higher up".

I personally witnessed a particularly egregious example of this at a nursing home I worked at for 2 years (and left just this past June). Rooms going for 8 to 10 THOUSAND per month, yet "always short of money for anything".

Too many chiefs and not enough indians.

I'd guess almost half that money went straight to people who not only never set foot in the facility, but even in the STATE...

Of course people prefer to blame rising minimum wages instead though...

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