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#4486375 - 08/16/19 10:39 AM Those "Beyond Burgers"  
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The crap you do for love sometimes......

So my wife bought a couple of those "Beyond Burgers" (plant based burger) because she was curious to see what all of the commotion was about. I was goaded into trying one of them and while I admit the actual TASTE wasn't too bad, I didn't care for the odd smell and there was none of that savory and juicy texture that makes beef so good. So my bottom line is that it's just not worth it. If I'm going to eat a "burger" I'm going to eat one with beef simply because it's a far superior experience. Has anyone here tried one?


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#4486377 - 08/16/19 10:43 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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No. I understand that they're more expensive, too.


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#4486380 - 08/16/19 10:48 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
No. I understand that they're more expensive, too.



Yes, they are a bit pricier but then again the target demographic for these "Beyond Burgers" is used to paying higher prices for trendy foods. It's basically the "Whole Foods" demographic. biggrin

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#4486388 - 08/16/19 11:46 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Daughter at Uni, and lots of peer pressure to go vegie, after a couple of months when she was coming back home I got a text message " I want a thick juicy steak with mashed potatoes for dinner"

God I have missed that was her comment at the dinner table biggrin

Her older sister had gone on a vegie kick a few years ago and when her kids visited us they raided the fridge and ate all the meat that was in there smile


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#4486396 - 08/16/19 02:10 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Humans are omnivores. And the consensus among anthropologists is that it was our mastery of fire and using it to cook meat, making the protein easier to be absorbed, that allowed our brains to evolve and develop the way they did.


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#4486398 - 08/16/19 02:19 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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My wife and I looked at them in the grocery store but the amount of coconut oil and sodium it contained offset any health benefits. We're sticking with meat for the time being. If they ever develop a meatless substitute that is actually healthy I would have no issue paying a little more for it.


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#4486407 - 08/16/19 03:24 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I have eaten, and enjoyed, a few black bean based burgers but these new ones do not sound good at all. I will stick to beef.


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#4486408 - 08/16/19 04:03 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Options are good, so I'm all for these being offered and also that the popularity may get people to think some about what they eat.
I'm sure I'll try it sometime, probably getting one and a "regular" hamburger to split with my wife just to compare. Maybe not until a good restaurant burger comes around, not fast food.
As mentioned, the salt concerns me due to my diet, but I'm all for people eating better and even cutting back on meats. You have to have your protein, but it's ok to get it from sources other than meat if you want.
The problem is most won't substitute something healthy for meat but will just eat more packaged and processed carb/sugar junk instead of real food.
From what I've seen tracking my food for the last couple of years is that the worst things in fast food isn't so much the hamburger, it's the stuff people tend to get WITH the hamburger that's so bad, and they have no meat. LOL
The fries are terrible for you, the soft drinks are the worlds cocaine and the extra salt on EVERYTHING (including these veggie-burgers) gives you a heart attack.
I'll have a cheat meal and get the biggest burger I want, I just won't get the other stuff and I may still hit my macros for the day.


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#4486424 - 08/16/19 06:10 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Think of it as the early stages of Soylent Green. Eventually they'll be getting there.


And from there, to this:

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Originally Posted by Ssnake
Think of it as the early stages of Soylent Green. Eventually they'll be getting there.


And from there, to this:

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No matter the type of burger, they are not meant to be an every-day kind of food, so I eat the burger as a treat. And as long as I am going to treat myself, it will be with beef. And yes, I've tried the impossible whopper and it was tasty, but not better. It was more expensive and the difference in calories wasn't enough to warrant the use of the word "impossible." So up to this point, the impossible beef is for PETA-minded people.


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#4486447 - 08/16/19 10:40 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted by Ssnake
Think of it as the early stages of Soylent Green. Eventually they'll be getting there.


That's funny. Myself and some friends were discussing these 'burgers' the other day and one of them brought up Soylent Green.


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#4486449 - 08/16/19 11:04 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
The crap you do for love sometimes......

So my wife bought a couple of those "Beyond Burgers" (plant based burger) because she was curious to see what all of the commotion was about. I was goaded into trying one of them and while I admit the actual TASTE wasn't too bad, I didn't care for the odd smell and there was none of that savory and juicy texture that makes beef so good. So my bottom line is that it's just not worth it. If I'm going to eat a "burger" I'm going to eat one with beef simply because it's a far superior experience. Has anyone here tried one?


the world can not sustain a meat diet anymore, they are slowly phasing us to acept fake meat, only the 1% will eat real meat. There is already a fake meat going through FDA for aproval.

#4486469 - 08/17/19 07:35 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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My wife recently cooked ribs, a rarity in our house.
While I was eating them my eight year old daughter asked me where they came from and I said "From cows."
My daughter was horrified and informed me she was turning vegetarian.
I then convinced her to try one and she immediately told me, "Daddy, I'm turning vegetarian TOMORROW."

#4486471 - 08/17/19 07:51 AM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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You know, our grandparents (somewhere in the 1870s...1920s) largely had a meat-free diet with a big piece of meat, maybe, once a week, on Sundays. To that extent I'm not entirely mortified by the thought to reduce meat consumption. Also, I don't think that only the richest people will still afford meat in the future but it may well be that we all eat our steaks on fewer occasions. As long as we get to eat other delicacies, that's fine, why not? My happiness isn't glued to one specific type of food ingredient.

Just don't try and put me on an all-Tofu diet, and tell me that this is a perfectly adequate substitute and that I can't tell the difference - because I can. Rather than faking meat from soybeans, make something that actually tastes good and has a good texture. You wouldn't try to make icecream from hamburger patties either, they simply are different things, accept it. I agree that from a global perspective, a meat-heavy diet for 8 BN people won't work; it already doesn't work for 2 BN (just look at what it does to the Amazonas rainforest). There's just no way to pull that off without ruining biodiversity (the biggest threat to our global existence (nature will survive very well without us)).
Vat grown meat might contribute to this if it can be made to actually feel good in your mouth. And the only way to cut back meat consumption is by raising the price. Globally, pretty much everybody who has the spare time to post in a simulation game oriented forum, belongs to the 1% (because you can afford a gaming PC, and you have the time for debating people on the internet). To that extent we will all be able to afford meat for the rest of our lives, even if its price were to increase four, or even tenfold. We wouldn't eat it all the time, but we'd still eat it.

We can't on the one hand acknowledge that our lifestyle doesn't scale to the size of the world population and at the same time assume that change will happen without change for us. The longer we wait changing our habits, the harder we'll hit the wall in about fifty years. To that extent I will laud and support every effort to reduce the negative effects on the environment (because we need it), even if the current first steps are about as crude as the very first automobiles. It'll take some time to get the formula right, .... Soylent Green puns not entirely unintended. wink

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So everyone's gonna ignore that PM's big sacrifice for love was eating an unsatisfying burger, lol


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#4486497 - 08/17/19 04:04 PM Re: Those "Beyond Burgers" [Re: Ssnake]  
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Originally Posted by Ssnake
You know, our grandparents (somewhere in the 1870s...1920s) largely had a meat-free diet with a big piece of meat, maybe, once a week, on Sundays. To that extent I'm not entirely mortified by the thought to reduce meat consumption. )


"meat" and "red meat" are not the same thing however.


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If I want vegetables I'll eat a salad with my steak..


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The doc told me to cut way back on my red meat intake...bad for the kidneys.


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Hell I agree with him KK excess of most things are bad But meat does have it's place in a balanced diet with fish and chicken AND fruits and vegetables..It's just that I have somewhat of an aversion to eating vegetables disguised as meat ..I eat a lot of vegetables with my meals and not a lot of red meat and make sure it's cooked thoroughly


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