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#4483749 - 07/22/19 06:50 PM Original Game Music  
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Hi. Does anyone have the original CD version, that has the game music tracks on it?

#4483829 - 07/23/19 02:32 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Mine just has data1.cab, data2.cab, data3.cab. I went through the install folders and couldn't find any music in there either. Sorry. Maybe someone else?

#4483844 - 07/23/19 05:28 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Hi Messyhead,

I have checked on my original CD and there are two files in the cohokum folder.

sound.dat
sound.hdr

Are these what you're looking for ?

Cheers,

Andy


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#4483845 - 07/23/19 05:45 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: Javelin]  
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Originally Posted by Javelin
Mine just has data1.cab, data2.cab, data3.cab. I went through the install folders and couldn't find any music in there either. Sorry. Maybe someone else?


Which version do you have? Supposedly the music was removed from the American version, and it's not contained in the budget releases. It needs to be in the original European version

#4483846 - 07/23/19 05:48 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: AndyB]  
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Originally Posted by AndyB
Hi Messyhead,

I have checked on my original CD and there are two files in the cohokum folder.

sound.dat
sound.hdr

Are these what you're looking for ?

Cheers,

Andy


They could be, I'm not sure to be honest. Supposedly you could put the disc in and play the music from it. How big are those files? Would you be able to send me them?

I was just curious to hear what the original music was like. I was thinking of looking for royalty free music to use instead. I'm not sure of the legality of using the original music now.

I searched through really old forum posts, and there's a few about the music. Someone had made a small utility to play the music separately. Also, after the first patch, the music stopped working.

I have my eye on an original boxed version on ebay, I might buy it to check myself.

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#4483855 - 07/23/19 06:18 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Hi

Sizes are 30,143k and 92k respectively. How do I send them ? I can zip them to make smaller.

The version I have did not have a box. It's a re-release from a company called XPLOSIV so the original boxed one may be different.

Cheers,

Andy


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#4483865 - 07/23/19 08:04 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Ah, I don't think that will be them then. From what I read, re-releases didn't have the music included.

I'll get the original from ebay, and see how it goes.

#4484387 - 07/28/19 05:54 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Hi Messyhead,

I own the original EU-Versions and also the US-Versions of both games (perhaps also the GOG version), cause I'm a collector of all kind of simulations since the late 80's.

If there was a soundtrack on one of those CD's, I must have it, cause they are the original ones wich where released in 1999 (EEAH) and 2000 (EECH). I will take a look in my collection.


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#4484393 - 07/28/19 07:41 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: Viper1970]  
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Originally Posted by Viper1970
Hi Messyhead,

I own the original EU-Versions and also the US-Versions of both games (perhaps also the GOG version), cause I'm a collector of all kind of simulations since the late 80's.

If there was a soundtrack on one of those CD's, I must have it, cause they are the original ones wich where released in 1999 (EEAH) and 2000 (EECH). I will take a look in my collection.


Great, let me know if you find them.

When you play the game from the CD, without any patches or mods, do you get the music? I read it stopped working after the first patch, but not sure if that's the 1.1E or another one.

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#4484470 - 07/29/19 03:56 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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I will take a look at it this week.

I must first reach my DJ-cases where all the simulators are stored. I will start to tidy and furnish my cockpit room this week. If this happens I can also take a look in the cases and give the original CD's a try.

I will sent the tracks to you when I'm done. smile


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CockpitPC2: PhenomII X6 1100T|32GB DDR2|2x 2TB HDD|2x Geforce GTX660 SLI|Win7Pro64
ComUnitPC1: Ryzen9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x 2TB HDD|Geforce RTX2070|Win11 Pro
ComUnitPC2: PhenomII X6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x 2TB HDD|Geforce GTX660|Win7Pro64
ComUnitPC3: AthlonII X2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|Geforce 5950Ultra|2x VoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME
ComUnitPC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce 256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE
#4484920 - 08/02/19 05:04 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Messyhead,

I have not forgotten you, but I had a lot to do this week to finish the KA-50 cockpit as I promised.

I have some work to do in my cockpit-room now, to get it done somewhere this year. Doing this I will also look for the music-files on my CD's.


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ComUnitPC1: Ryzen9 3900XT|32GB DDR4|2x 2TB HDD|Geforce RTX2070|Win11 Pro
ComUnitPC2: PhenomII X6 1100T|16GB DDR2|2x 2TB HDD|Geforce GTX660|Win7Pro64
ComUnitPC3: AthlonII X2 250|2GB DDR2|2TB HDD|Geforce 5950Ultra|2x VoodooII SLI|WinXPPro32&WinME
ComUnitPC4: K6-2+|768MB SDR|640GB HDD|Geforce 256DDR|VoodooI|Win98SE
#4486334 - 08/15/19 11:19 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Yeah! I've found my CDs!

Edit: links removed

First tracks are data, so I didn't share them wink

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#4486349 - 08/16/19 01:13 AM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Thanks for sharing. I've removed the links as I'm not sure they should be shared publicly, but I've downloaded a copy. I'm going to experiment with adding the music back in, and maybe try and find similar royalty free music to use if I can't use the original tracks.

#4486352 - 08/16/19 01:36 AM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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Hi Guys, I'm curious what the music sounds like, my disks don't have any music tracks on them. I have a later version of the sim. Any chance you could privately share the link?

#4486354 - 08/16/19 01:50 AM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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It's very 90s techno. Reminds me a lot of some Prodigy tracks.

I'll PM you.

Having listened to them, I think if we can work out how to get music to play from hard drive, I could try and find some royalty free music that would suit.

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#4486400 - 08/16/19 02:37 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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It is very techno, having listened to the tracks. When I play the sim I usually already have music playing in the background from a standard music player. Select enough tracks and it plays all the way through. I would think that some predominantly percussive tracks like they use for Halo would go well with this type of sim. Music is all personal preference though, we all seem to like different things.

#4486728 - 08/19/19 10:55 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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I managed to contact the original game music creator. They said they'd be happy for the music to be included, and even offered to remaster it.

So when I have some time, I'll try and get the tracks to play from hard drive, and take it from there.

#4486862 - 08/20/19 10:35 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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This has been a bit of a result. I wish everything with trying to mod this game went this way.

Alex Cable, the creator of the original music (his name is on the credits screen), has remastered the music and sent me it. He's happy for the music to be included in the game, and he even redid the EEAH music too.

I've asked if he could email something that can be included in the readme, so that there's no doubt that it shows the creator gave permission.

So we just need to re-write the code that plays the in game music now, and get that restored. It's a task for the todo list biggrin

#4486867 - 08/20/19 10:53 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  

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Wow thats great smile I also never heard music ingame.

#4486869 - 08/20/19 11:07 PM Re: Original Game Music [Re: messyhead]  
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I'm not able to share them unfortunately, they can only be shared with the future modded version of the game that's released for free. So even GoG won't be allowed to distribute the music. I'll upload the music to the code repo, along with the permission, I'll create new branch for it.

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