I would love to play X4 if I knew they had finally given the game a decent interface.

I have tons of hours in X3 but my issue was always when fleets got to a certain size the game turned into submenu hotkey diving warrior and was annoying as heck to give orders to anything.

I want a simple band box select with mouse interface on a map and one click orders like a real time strategy game.

No more menu diving. Please.

Did they fix this?

I doubt you could have one click orders with all the stuff you can do In the X series. It´s always been like that even way back In the X3 Albion Prelude days you had menus, pull downs and pop ups. There wasn't that much options as now, but you still had the same agency In-game.

I guess It´s the nature of the beast, but we all know that It´s not the only game like that, especially when we look at simulators. When we have to many options, we complain that there´s to many, and when we have less options, we complain that we have less options

I know It´s not the most friendly UI In the world, but neither Is ArmA III, Panzer Elite, DCS, Enemy Engaged, Iron Warrior T-72, or FSX just to name a few.

and @Trooper117...

I understand what both of you mean. I have this BAD habit of going through some tutorial videos (or text) that will give me a basic understanding of a game and have it pretty much down, play a bit with the game In question (maybe an hour or three), and then get distracted with some other game that just came out or whatever, drop it for a couple of days or more, and then try to come back to it without really remembering what I learned from my research on learning the darn game! Which In turn Is a waste of time, money and effort! This not only happens to me In my PC gaming, it also happens to me with wargames that I buy and need to learn, which can be very dense!

I have now learnt to stick with it, and even take notes, and re-read, rinse and repeat If needed. It´s the only way, at least for me. Once your Into it, keep at it and play, and play more till It sinks In, and In the end you will feel that It wasn't that hard to do.

You get your moneys worth and you have fun, you just need that extra push/effort.

Red

X4 is good so far.

X4 Star Wars Interworlds total conversion is even better.