Genesis was good in the 80's but better in the 70's. Check out the album 'Trick of the Tail' or 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'
Concur. The band lost most of its progressive edge when Gabriel left and they eventually evolved to mainstream rock by the time of "We Can't Dance".
I think Steve Hackett's departure. was a bigger influence in moving to a more mainstream/pop sound. After Gabriel left they still produced "Trick of the Tail" and "Wind & Wuthering," two excellent and very much progressive rock albums. After Hackett left, they produced "And Then There Were Three...," which in itself is a commentary on their situation. The first tune on the album, "Down and Out," is about a band confronting the need to change their sound to be able to continue to be successful. Autobiographical maybe? Or maybe I'm reading something into it, but the album has a much different sound than their previous material, none of the long epic tunes that is synonymous with progressive rock, and a downright pop song in "Follow You, Follow Me," which of course became a pretty big hit for the band.
Very good point. I still think 'Trick of the Tail' is one of the best albums Genesis ever produced. 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' being the very best. 'Fly on a Windshield' being one of my faves.
But that bass...dam (and Molly Ringwalds' bassist nails this song, IMO).
The problem with the 80's is that even the really crappy stuff can end up impressing in some way.
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
Very good point. I still think 'Trick of the Tail' is one of the best albums Genesis ever produced. 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' being the very best. 'Fly on a Windshield' being one of my faves.
Right there with you on “The Lamb!” For me 2nd place is a tie between “Trick of the Tail,” “Wind & Wuthering”, and “Selling England By The Pound.”
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#4481655 - 07/05/1908:56 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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What I love about this video in particular is look at how she is dressed, compared with pop singers nowadays while performing at concerts. She's not half naked with her boobs and ass hanging out like she's a piece of meat, and instead just trying to sing the crowd a song. Don't get me wrong, we had some really risque videos in the 80s, but funny thing--when in concert, I've observed many a performer less so in some of the recordings of events I've seen. This isn't a blanket rule, though. There were exceptions.
#4481682 - 07/05/1911:12 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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“Rico Suave” by Gerardo was an early 90’s song, not 80’s.
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#4481686 - 07/05/1911:32 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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Someone touched on this earlier, but I believe in the 80's it was still considered cool for women to have a conservative aura that I for one found very attractive.
As I did the woman in this 1982 Rocky-Poppy video at 2:04+...
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481688 - 07/05/1911:49 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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Look at what you started Dart! I'm holding you personally responsible, you probably should go look in a mirror and take stock of yourself
Regards a lack of knowledge on current or at least post 2000 music and musicians, here's a couple of awesome ladies that many would not have heard and hold up to the ladies of the past. Kate Bush was definitely a stand out of her time i will admit, she wasn't scared to experiment and go outside the norms.
That's not even scratching the surface, it can honestly be hard to keep up with the plethora of music that is pumped out these days which in a way is nice as one doesn't hear one song for months on end.
That's not even scratching the surface, it can honestly be hard to keep up with the plethora of music that is pumped out these days which in a way is nice as one doesn't hear one song for months on end.
One song for months on end? You must have missed my 80's albums listing, and it's far from complete (and IMO not even the best decade of music).
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481700 - 07/06/1901:50 AMRe: Our music was the best...
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My two favorite modern female singers would likely be Alison Goldfrapp, who is nuts and creative as hell, and Tessa Murray of Still Corners, who's voice is dreamy:
She plays a killer straight out of the 80s slow bassline on the second song on this album, starting at 3:38:
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#4481755 - 07/06/1911:45 AMRe: Our music was the best...
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I will say that no matter how good he was, I can't stand to listen to Prince any more.
Not because of some political view (because in the 80's artists just didn't play that game), or some lyric choices, or how he ruined Sheena Easton, or because it was bad music.
It's because it was all the local radio stations would play Prince songs over and over and over and over again.
The same is true for the Alabama band. Since I went to High School just up the road from Fort Payne it was Alabama Band 24/7 on the radio.
Hilariously enough, me and my buddy ran into them while fishing the South Sauty one afternoon, and while they appreciated the fact that we didn't swoon or act weird, they were also surprised about it (this was about the time they were Country Music Group of the Year, etc.). They admitted they didn't listen to the local radio much, as they have to rehearse and play the songs enough as it is, and having to hear it again and again...and then started laughing.
"Y'all know we don't have nothing to do with that, right?" was their apology. Accepted. So we swapped some jigs (the bass were biting the white ones that day, and the debate was over long versus short), shook hands all around, and left each other on good terms.
The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events.
1. The vast majority of people I know who are my age could give two flips about music, old or new. It's something they rarely talk about and doesn't seem important in their daily lives except for maybe a little background noise when they're not watching TV. The fact that we're interested (or even passionate) enough to discuss it like this is rare.
2. I frequently listen to music I've never heard before. Usually I'm walking a downtown or the French Quarter with my wife and we hear something coming from a bar or restaurant that interests us. Or we'll go to a book store that offers coffee and a live performer (although that's becoming very rare these days). Or even catching a performance in a world famous Jazz Club in NYC. If it's something I can groove to (like the occasional new tune one of you might post here), I'm good. And sometimes I like it so much I even purchase it...
But I'm a lot more discerning with the music I purchase (usually CD, sometimes DRM-free MP3). Plus it's not my personality to feel like I have to keep moving on to the next or newest thing. If I *really* like something, I'll probably never get bored with it.
3. New music to me is mostly a young person's game, how I felt about it as a teen and how I still feel about it in my 50's. Let the old folks enjoy their oldies (if they even still care about music at all).
BTW, this to me is still the all-time best Pop music (one off Thriller without an Eddie Van Halen guitar solo)...
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481758 - 07/06/1911:56 AMRe: Our music was the best...
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Late '70s and '80s music was so crappy I started getting interested in 'alternative' and 'punk'. It was so 'off the chain' and hilarious! I am mostly a classical music fan including opera. Turandot is a great 'first' opera especially for dating! Jazz and blues are in my 'diet', too!
#4481759 - 07/06/1912:07 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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^ There you go, different tastes and all. I love a live Classical performance and find Punk to be mostly no-talent #%&*$#.
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481766 - 07/06/1901:04 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run