The great decades of music seem to be behind us. Autotune is the worst thing to happen to music, it has enabled several people without signing voices to become huge stars - Katy Perry for example. She really can’t sing at all!
Just this morning I was listening to some classical and a bit of opera. Pavarotti singin Nessun Dorma for example, and I finished with this gem: Robert Merrill and Jussi Björling singing Bizet’s Pearl Fishers’ Duet. I will venture to say that, no matter if you’re into this sort of music or not, I defy you to NOT be at least slightly moved by this piece of music. Two men with pitch-perfect voices pouring their hearts and souls into this song.
I have a snippet of Pavarotti, close miked and without any "enhancements", it is mastered to a proper 0db with no compression or expansion, you can just about hear every hair in his beard, as well as a little of the orchestra in the far background, it was part of a test CD for setting up sound systems, it still sends shivers up my spine listening to it.
For the gamers out there it also has a 105mm main gun from a centurion tank firing and some GPMG 7.62 rattling off a few rounds, as I said it is to test out sound systems and it can be a bit harsh on the speakers
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#4481220 - 07/03/1905:19 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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Just remember, Pavarotti was a tenor, Paganini was a composer.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
Lol. I've just finished reading "...Red October" again, gotta watch the condensed movie version now while it's fresh in my memory.
Alicatt, the video you posted above on Vintage Audio was excellent, had my full attention within the first minute.
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#4481234 - 07/03/1905:56 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Lol. I've just finished reading "...Red October" again, gotta watch the condensed movie version now while it's fresh in my memory.
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This is on my current reading list. I hope to get to it sometime this year.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4481235 - 07/03/1905:57 PMRe: Our music was the best...
[Re: MarkG]
Lol. I've just finished reading "...Red October" again, gotta watch the condensed movie version now while it's fresh in my memory.
Alicatt, the video you posted above on Vintage Audio was excellent, had my full attention within the first minute.
The ending is even better it really gets you fired up...
Well the CD was a godsend, I used to have to carry around cassettes, 1/4", and 1" master tapes with test tones on them for my work, now I have them on CD, DVD and Bluray.
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#4481296 - 07/03/1910:21 PMRe: Our music was the best...
[Re: Dart]
So have we reached any conclusions from this thread, other than Dart's son apparently having good taste in music?
I dunno, it's all so subjective, even amongst those of us at a similar age, especially from different parts of the globe. At least my musical taste is diverse enough that I can almost always find common ground with others.
I'm just happy to have my calender filled with 70's/80's Rock shows, usually small local venues. I can't imagine any good 70's or 80's cover or tribute band ever having a hard time finding gigs, at least not in my lifetime.
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#4481346 - 07/04/1909:29 AMRe: Our music was the best...
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Originally Posted by MarkG
So have we reached any conclusions from this thread, other than Dart's son apparently having good taste in music?
I dunno, it's all so subjective, even amongst those of us at a similar age, especially from different parts of the globe. At least my musical taste is diverse enough that I can almost always find common ground with others.
I'm just happy to have my calender filled with 70's/80's Rock shows, usually small local venues. I can't imagine any good 70's or 80's cover or tribute band ever having a hard time finding gigs, at least not in my lifetime.
What i have generally found is people tend to get stuck in their teenagey era of music, and don't really move on much., much like you stated above with yourself It's like people stop exploring music at a certain age or time in their lives which blows me out honestly. Like one day they went, alright..that's it, no more music after this day and what i have heard is the best and anything from now on sucks. Bollocks. There is absolute tons of great music around atm, most of it just isn't played on the mainstream stations. People stating todays music is rubbish is the same as kids parents hating the Beatles or the Stones back in the day, it wasn't rubbish either, the oldies just couldn't relate to the then modern music. I've always harped on about keeping current with indie/alternative/chill/chillstep/hiphop/current metal etc etc and finding new bands and tunes that make me feel. Helps you with the kids as well when you can appreciate what they listen to instead of slagging it like most peoples olds do.
Listening to a radio station with presenters who are passionate about music and musicians makes a big difference as well, hearing how they came up with a song, what moves them, their musical background etc.
2. I explored new music at least to that point, just didn't like was I was finding (probably post-1995 or so). BTW, I detest pretty much *all* Rap and prefer melodic guitar-centric sound which really narrows the possibilities post-2000, yes? Excessively vulgar lyrics also a no-go. The subject matter can be racy, but the presentation must be subtle for me to enjoy.
3. I won't make the argument that today's music is rubbish, just that it's very different and I have a strong preference for what came before. But then there are lots of current trends I'm not crazy about, so it's not just music.
4. I had no children and so was never inclined to follow their trends. However, I remember when my father would beat on my door for me to turn down my music which he hated. Let's see...he would have been in his mid-40's then. Should I have said, "Oh dad, this Mötley Crüe's 'Shout at the Devil' is so much better than the Johnny Cash, CCR or Chuck Berry you listen to. If only you would give it a chance."
And I don't believe a visual would have helped ...
Personally, I would have been weirded out if my father would have started listening to a lot of my music. BTW, I also enjoy Johnny Cash and CCR now that I'm older, and today in his 80's he mostly listens to Classic Rock radio.
5. I have satellite internet and I'm spending far less time online these days (lifestyle change). Given those limitations and the overall changes in music, looking for new music just isn't worth it to me, although I'm still discovering older music that I missed the first time. And there's just so much of it (mainly late-60's to early 90's, listening at home and out live) that I don't feel a need to expand my musical horizons or collection any further. If that makes me seem old or old-fashion then so be it, I'm fine with that. I'm 51 and still fondly reminisce about having an 8-track tape option, so I'm not trying to pretend to be younger than I am. Besides, I equate age more with physical fitness and having a passion for life than with long-time habits and preferences.
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EDIT: This is more my speed these days (from 1984's "Reckless")...
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481370 - 07/04/1912:15 PMRe: Our music was the best...
[Re: Dart]
In 1981, I was ten years old. I spent a lot of time playing with a radio listening to broadcasts on pop stations.. Even in the '70s I remember listening to Eddie rabbit songs, Glen Campbell, Bee Gees, etc. It was just what was on and I didn't get much say as to what was playing.
Suddenly around 1982 or so music seemed more aggressively seeping into anything and everything. Probably due to more aggressive advertising to kids. Music itself was more engaging, to me, starting then.
1980s music featured some horrible, putrid crap. But the general flavor was either of some kind of hope, or a modern interpretation of desperation. The fun part was a liberal dash of weirdness. Kings of fluff like Paul McCartney (admit it, he made a song about answering the door) gave way to artists with songs that once again might have more meaning behind them. Might be a strange meaning, but still.
But 80s music had a very finite universe. The attitudes and social mores and even political situations of the times were pop music staples that were non sustainable. How long could "19" be relevant? "One night in Bangkok"? Talk about a good but odd song...how is that going to stand a test of time? Some of the HipHop and rap fared much better even if it wasn't as big then as it became years later.
The best of the 80s is quite good. Listen to 'Rio' today. It still has great tracks. And more than a couple that were a treat to hear on the radio when new, but today...forgettable, as great as Duran Duran is.
Now...Eddy Grant. Now we're talking.
But as far as the 1980s having the best music, I have one thing to say: Led Zeppelin was active only until 1980. They were in a real sense a 1970s band although people tend to think of them as a '60s band.
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#4481372 - 07/04/1912:20 PMRe: Our music was the best...
[Re: Dart]
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481389 - 07/04/1902:24 PMRe: Our music was the best...
[Re: Dart]
There is good music being released today, it's just not easy to find. Popular Music however is terrible IMO. Watch any Music awards show. It's more about dancing and autotune these days.
In 1981, I was ten years old. I spent a lot of time playing with a radio listening to broadcasts on pop stations.. Even in the '70s I remember listening to Eddie rabbit songs, Glen Campbell, Bee Gees, etc.
This thread is bumming me out. You guys get me all fired up for some Rhinestone Cowboy and it's not even on my Greatest Hits!
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481460 - 07/04/1909:03 PMRe: Our music was the best...
[Re: MarkG]
In 1981, I was ten years old. I spent a lot of time playing with a radio listening to broadcasts on pop stations.. Even in the '70s I remember listening to Eddie rabbit songs, Glen Campbell, Bee Gees, etc.
This thread is bumming me out. You guys get me all fired up for some Rhinestone Cowboy and it's not even on my Greatest Hits!
Public service announcement: Listen to Glen Campbell impressing the heck out of a room of musical giants. He has to be the most underrated guitarist of all time!
In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#4481461 - 07/04/1909:20 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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Glen Campbell was a very successful studio musician playing with many of big names in the industry before he went on to a solo career. The dude could sure as hell play the guitar.
#4481462 - 07/04/1909:26 PMRe: Our music was the best...
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Glen Campbell was a very successful studio musician playing with many of big names in the industry before he went on to a solo career. The dude could sure as hell play the guitar.
He and Roy Clark were both phenomenal guitarists. My tastes ran more the the rock and R&B side of things but I certainly appreciated the skills they had.
When Eddy Grant is mentioned a performance needs to be posted
Kickin' Electric Avenue live
The 80's were awesome for sure, so many different types of music being listened to by all. The variety of concerts we went to back in the day you could probably not get people to go with you now a days as people seem to be stuck in their genre and listen to nothing else.
We would go see Run DMC & BEastie Boysone weekend,
Loverboy & Bryan Adams the next
and two weeks later Judas Priest & Accept
Some of my favorite songs came out in the 90's though, ones that I will still crank to 11 when they come on.
Toadies for one
or to chill out
Obviously there is still good music, singers and bands coming out these days but for me most of it is stuff you will not hear on regular radio.
Sturgill killin' on SNL still did not break him out like I hoped it would for instance
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4481478 - 07/05/1912:20 AMRe: Our music was the best...
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