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#4481083 - 07/02/19 11:51 PM Our music was the best...  
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Or was it?

My son, at 23, absolutely loves 1980's music, and will tell one that it's the best and he wishes they still made music like that.

I agreed that things like melody and brass instruments have all but disappeared from popular music, but that he's hearing only part of what we did.

"Son, the music you hear representing the 1980's is the top ten percent - the best of the decade. There was a lot of crap music - we just elect not to keep listening to it, because, well, it was and is crap."

The same is true, I think, for any ten year stretch of music. Listen to a classic '60's radio station - it's what, 50 songs in rotation?


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#4481085 - 07/02/19 11:54 PM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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Your son is correct regardless, and even outside of music, the '80s was the last great decade.

#4481089 - 07/03/19 12:21 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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I have had that same conversation several times. I always point out there are still bands from that era that are filling out 60,,00 seat theaters and the whole crowd practically sings along with every song. You can look at the audience and see people of all ages, race's, etc., etc..


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#4481091 - 07/03/19 12:33 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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Totally agree, the '80's had a ton of stinkers like any other era. Most of the '80's big hits have been flogged harder than an Aussie convict and pushed me away from mainstream radio a long time ago. Hearing all of the 'nostalgic' songs over and over in movies and series does my head in biggrin I still find plenty of new music to listen to these days, there are so many more ways for music to get out there and so many genres, music is thriving.


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#4481100 - 07/03/19 02:11 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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I'll take the 60's,70's, skip the 80's and go to the 90's for the last great decade of music. (the kind played with instruments)

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#4481103 - 07/03/19 02:25 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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'80s music seems to have become the current Muzak, being played everywhere and seemingly acceptable to everyone.


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#4481105 - 07/03/19 02:41 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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I was there in the 80s, I was a teen and twenty something in the 80s and even songs I thought were utter crap back then sound pretty good today.
Must be getting old.

#4481108 - 07/03/19 03:00 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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I find a lot of the Rock from the 80's does not hold up. Too many power ballads, and way too much synthesizer. (not to mention hair spray).
In the 90's Rock became great again, they called it alternative, but it was Rock.

I turned 13 in 1980, so my teens were heavy on Van Halen,Motley Crue, Judas Priest, Scorpions etc. But Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin dominated my listening, Floyd still does today.


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#4481110 - 07/03/19 03:55 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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The thing about 80's music was that there was a backlash against the dinosaur "rock" bands of the 60's and 70's. What was first called alternative, or new wave, became popular because many of the songs were great. Sure the 80's had bad music. I remember bands like the Plasmatics and El Debarge. LOL. There still was a choice of distinctly different types of music to chose from all across the radio dial.

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#4481111 - 07/03/19 04:48 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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Music went downhill after the 80s. The 90s were terrible, with rare exception--most 90s tunes grate on me if I hear them these days, and post 2000 pop... is that even music?

Around 2008, or so, music began to change for the better again in the indie scene, college music, etc., and the nonsense of lyrics dominating the tunes faded with strong instrumental synth mixed compositions rising in popularity again. We have synthwave, retrowave, dreampop, chillwave, pyschadelia and even modern post-punk etc. which has some nifty stuff.

The 80s, though, were our last golden age. As a synesthete, music from the 70s and 80s is pretty much unrivaled, aside from those genres I mentioned above.


These days, however, I often turn to music that is often 500 to 1000 years old, from the Medieval period, as ambient background sounds when I'm trying to relax. A great station is Ancient FM:

http://ancientfm.com/

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#4481117 - 07/03/19 08:03 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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The great decades of music seem to be behind us. Autotune is the worst thing to happen to music, it has enabled several people without signing voices to become huge stars - Katy Perry for example. She really can’t sing at all!

Just this morning I was listening to some classical and a bit of opera. Pavarotti singin Nessun Dorma for example, and I finished with this gem: Robert Merrill and Jussi Björling singing Bizet’s Pearl Fishers’ Duet. I will venture to say that, no matter if you’re into this sort of music or not, I defy you to NOT be at least slightly moved by this piece of music. Two men with pitch-perfect voices pouring their hearts and souls into this song.



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#4481118 - 07/03/19 08:06 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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Meh, 70's all the way for me. It had the lowest lows for sure, but also the highest highs.


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The '70s lows were low indeed!






#4481123 - 07/03/19 09:19 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: DM]  
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Originally Posted by DM
Meh, 70's all the way for me. It had the lowest lows for sure, but also the highest highs.


Same. I was 11 in 1970. That's when I started getting interested in pop music. I used to tape the top 40 on a Sunday evening,hoping the DJ wouldn't talk over the tracks too much.

I also used to listen to Radio Luxembourg even though I remember the reception was quite often bad.


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#4481138 - 07/03/19 11:24 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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Music is totally subjective just like every other art form. There's no such thing as what is the "best" or what is the "worst" in universal terms.


Now, what CAN be debated in absolute terms is legacy and influence. There are musical bands and artists which clearly have left a much larger legacy and have had much more influence on the artform compared to other bands.


Someone can tell me that they think the Beatles suck and I'm ok with that. What they can't tell me is that the Beatles left no legacy and didn't have any influence.


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#4481139 - 07/03/19 11:26 AM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky


Same. I was 11 in 1970. That's when I started getting interested in pop music. I used to tape the top 40 on a Sunday evening,hoping the DJ wouldn't talk over the tracks too much.

I also used to listen to Radio Luxembourg even though I remember the reception was quite often bad.


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#4481156 - 07/03/19 12:15 PM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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Duh,who wouldn't? biggrin


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#4481157 - 07/03/19 12:17 PM Re: Our music was the best... [Re: Dart]  
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1. Hairspray, open shirt and tight spandex are video-related, nothing to do with audio. I normally don't think of some of the ridiculous visuals when listening to Queen or DLR-Van Halen (for example), the music stands on its own. Lots of Rock was glammed to a degree (even late-80's Guns N' Roses doesn't get a pass).

2. 'Disco Duck' doesn't negate 'Dark Side of the Moon'. Only the highs should matter in quantity and quality (although we may not all agree on what those highs were).

3. Your favorite era of music is usually what was popular when you came of age. I turned 13 in 1980, found my future wife Jan. 1984 which also affected my listening preferences. Had we not made it, those memory-inducing 80's power ballads would probably be nails on a chalkboard versus boosting my dopamine.

4. I base my favorite eras of music on albums purchased (not including lots and lots of Greatest Hits)...
http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4458624/your-personal-top-10-albums#Post4458624



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I still sit in with bands from time to time , often with folks young enough to be my kids smile . They all know and love good classic rock/pop music from the 60s, 70s and 80s but usually have never heard of or disdain the crap music of the same decades. The same I suppose can be said of the classics. I expect that there were hordes of people writing and playing music hundreds of years ago but what we have left are the "Beatles" of those times ....Bach, Mozart etc. and the Black Sabbath of the era "Wagner" biggrin


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Richard Wagner is by far my favorite composer of all time. The legacy and influence of his music and his concept of the “music drama” can’t be overstated. He even influenced composers of Hollywood film scores of the 20th century.


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