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#4480125 - 06/26/19 10:35 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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"A theory is not science it is a theory."
You completely misunderstand the way the Science community uses the word "Theory." Most people like yourself use this reasoning because they don't understand. I'm sure you believe in gravity, right? Then again, considering your mindset, maybe you don't. But, even though you aren't floating off into space, gravity is considered a theory.
Subs, please don't attempt to teach us science. You are not qualified.

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#4480127 - 06/26/19 10:48 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted by Pooch
"A theory is not science it is a theory."
You completely misunderstand the way the Science community uses the word "Theory." Most people like yourself use theis reasoning because they don't. I'm sure you believe in gravity, right? Then again, considering your mindset, maybe you don't. But, even though you aren't floating off into space, gravity is considered a theory.
Subs, please don't attempt to teach us science. You are not qualified.


Somehow Subs seems to think that the bible represents factual information that confirms his theory. He overlooks the fact that his interpretation of the bible is not fact and not even theory, merely conjecture or heresay, at best.


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#4480128 - 06/26/19 11:13 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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I've had face to face engagements with people like him. It's almost scary. I come away from them feeling as though I was trying to reason with someone who is completely out of their minds. One of the worst was a woman who I finally couldn't listen to anymore. I said, "Holy %#$@! The Middle Ages just called and they want you to come home!"
It gets a bit too frustrating. It's like tryin to reason with a child.

Ok guys; let’s not pile on and insult another member. If you disagree you can do so without personal attack.


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#4480130 - 06/26/19 11:18 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: SUBS_17]  
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Originally Posted by SUBS_17

A wormhole has two points that are sphere shaped, we can observe them in the Universe in the form of Black Holes, Sunspots(which is where we see the wormhole to the stars fuel dimension), Pacific ring of fire(wormhole exit points with their entry point being in the suns upper atmosphere and even in Sinai and Israel there are wormhole exit points that emit water which is from the Exodus.


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#4480131 - 06/26/19 11:25 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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".......trying to reason with someone who is completely out of their mind."


"From our orbital vantage point, we observe an earth without borders, full of peace, beauty and magnificence, and we pray that humanity as a whole can imagine a borderless world as we see it, and strive to live as one in peace."
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#4480138 - 06/27/19 12:54 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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Subs, without getting into theological areas and staying with known physics, sunspots are simply areas of lower temperatures in the photosphere of the Sun, causes by vortices in the circulation of same. Worm-holes although much speculated about especially in science fiction are not proven. No-0ne knows where you go if you pass through a black hole without being torn to pieces by tidal forces. Faster than light travel is in no way comparable to passing through the "sound barrier". That was purely a characteristic of travel in a gaseous medium. The Universe itself does not permit any object to travel at light speed. your Tau simply grows larger and larger, but to attain the speed of light would entail massing the same as the entire universe.


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#4480141 - 06/27/19 01:03 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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I ask again, how did RELIGION get into this, and why was this permitted in the first place?

This is M-Fkng SimHQ. We deal in NUMBERS AND SCIENCE here.

I admit I got weak and dove into said subject a tiny bit in this thread...

I'm not out to "suppress religious thought", or any kind of thought, but this ain't the place for religious talk.

What happened to this place?

#4480142 - 06/27/19 01:06 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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Not an attack but a direct question. To have such a deep understanding of theological, cosmological and astrophysical concepts generally requires an extensive education in all of these areas. Subs, where, besides YouTube, did you acquire your education in these matters?


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#4480144 - 06/27/19 01:12 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: cichlidfan]  
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#4480145 - 06/27/19 01:31 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Zamzow]  
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Originally Posted by Zamzow
I ask again, how did RELIGION get into this, and why was this permitted in the first place?

This is M-Fkng SimHQ. We deal in NUMBERS AND SCIENCE here.

I admit I got weak and dove into said subject a tiny bit in this thread...

I'm not out to "suppress religious thought", or any kind of thought, but this ain't the place for religious talk.

What happened to this place?





We try not to limit the direction of threads and discussions. We do require that members not insult each other. Debate the point and not the person.

I am thinking of moving this post since it has become pointedly controversial.


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#4480147 - 06/27/19 01:38 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
I am thinking of moving this post since it has become pointedly controversial.


It is not overly controversial. We just have one person posting things that they perceive as facts that have not been proven outside of their own mind. Others are merely pointing out flaws in that thought process.


No, it is not merely pointing out flaws in that thought process. It became personally insulting.

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#4480150 - 06/27/19 01:50 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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Admittedly, I'm guilty of having stepped over the line. The post went into an area that drives me nuts. I'm gonna bow out of the discussion since I don't believe it's going to head back onto it's original tracks. Apologies.


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#4480151 - 06/27/19 01:52 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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Thanks Pooch.


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#4480152 - 06/27/19 01:52 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted by Pooch
Admittedly, I'm guilty of having stepped over the line. The post went into an area that drives me nuts. I'm gonna bow out of the discussion since I don't believe it's going to head back onto it's original tracks. Apologies.



I do NOT apologize. If this is now "BibleHq" I'm done.

Do you have a list of topics, stances, beliefs, and other items which may not be spoken here ?

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#4480154 - 06/27/19 02:06 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Zamzow]  
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Originally Posted by Zamzow
Originally Posted by Pooch
Admittedly, I'm guilty of having stepped over the line. The post went into an area that drives me nuts. I'm gonna bow out of the discussion since I don't believe it's going to head back onto it's original tracks. Apologies.



I do NOT apologize. If this is now "BibleHq" I'm done.


So you're the mirror image of Subs then. Right?

The ignore function works. I just added Subs and I'm a Bible believing Christian (and my Bible doesn’t contain any of the nonsense Subs is spewing so your blaming religion is off base. Subs is just "wrong" to put it in words I can use within the rules of the forum)


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#4480159 - 06/27/19 02:30 AM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by Zamzow
Originally Posted by Pooch
Admittedly, I'm guilty of having stepped over the line. The post went into an area that drives me nuts. I'm gonna bow out of the discussion since I don't believe it's going to head back onto it's original tracks. Apologies.



I do NOT apologize. If this is now "BibleHq" I'm done.


So you're the mirror image of Subs then. Right?

The ignore function works. I just added Subs and I'm a Bible believing Christian (and my Bible doesn’t contain any of the nonsense Subs is spewing so your blaming religion is off base. Subs is just "wrong" to put it in words I can use within the rules of the forum)


Subs posts have little or nothing to do with the bible. He is merely grabbing a sentence here and there to 'prove' his points. He is quite entitled to his beliefs but he should understand that most theological scholars would not agree. Neither would most astrophysical scholars.


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#4480210 - 06/27/19 02:49 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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The whole Space Alien thing is a big yawn to me.

If there are indeed Space Aliens visiting:

A) They don't seem to be doing anything meaningful, other than avoiding in focus cameras and the occasional capture-anal-probe-and-release of a few people. We may be a subject of study, but the impact is about as much as Jane Goodall had to the primates she sat with. If anything, bet that the Earth is a quarantine zone.

B) If they are planning an invasion there is zero we can do until they commence hostilities, in which case we'll go with what we got and make up the rest as we go along. We're a resilient and numerous species that may be a whole lot more than a distant people can bite off, let alone chew.

I don't subscribe to the notion that governments are working in secret with Space Aliens; governments do a lot of things well, but one they absolutely suck at is keeping secrets, or having their secrets remain hidden after they fall.

I do like the Ancient Alien theory that people were genetically engineered to be slaves to Space Alien Overlords but quickly turned the tables on them and so they left. That would make us the assh*le species of the Universe, and that appeals to me on so many levels.


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#4480214 - 06/27/19 03:05 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: Haggart]  
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There was a book and then a movie about aliens enslaving humans who rebelled but I can't remember its name.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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There were a many. Battlefield Earth, the Mote in Gods Eye, Cobra, The Puppetmasters, Invasion of the Bodysnatchers, Childhoods End, The Course of Empire, the Ring of Charon,....

Haven’t read this collection of short stories, but it is on my “to get to” list.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24612430-occupied-earth


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#4480226 - 06/27/19 03:40 PM Re: More UFO's Being Reported by Military Pilots [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
There was a book and then a movie about aliens enslaving humans who rebelled but I can't remember its name.



Battlefield Earth?

Watch the movie if you want a great laugh.

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