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#4478363 - 06/16/19 12:56 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Originally Posted by JimBobb
How old is Wild Bill anyway? He is running the show for 40 years.



Graduated Air Force Academy in 1970 so he's about 70-71 I imagine.


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#4478375 - 06/16/19 02:32 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
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How old is Wild Bill anyway? He is running the show for 40 years.



Graduated Air Force Academy in 1970 so he's about 70-71 I imagine.


Wow, what a legend notworthy

#4478428 - 06/16/19 11:59 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: WangoTango]  
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The Fiero was a death trap.

And Marilyn Monroe wore a size 16...with only a 22" (56 cm) waist! biggrin

Some myths are persistent, but when you investigate you sometimes find the opposite to be true...

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"The Fiero was the second safest vehicle sold in America from 1984 to 1988, bested by the Volvo 740DL station wagon."

"The Fiero, with its unique plastic body-on-spaceframe design, helped the Fiero achieve a NHTSA NCAP frontal crash test rating of five stars, the highest rating available."

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Yes, there were Fiero car fires in the first year of production due to a major design flaw (never affected the later V6's), but it was corrected the following year and no one died because of it. The consensus is that by 1988, GM had finally gotten the Fiero right (including an awesome new suspension)...and then they killed it! mad



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4478430 - 06/17/19 12:06 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Originally Posted by JimBobb
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by JimBobb
How old is Wild Bill anyway? He is running the show for 40 years.



Graduated Air Force Academy in 1970 so he's about 70-71 I imagine.


Wow, what a legend notworthy


In case you haven't seen this video of Wild Bill in Microprose's heyday (starting at 6:40)...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm8VTZ2fyos



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4478453 - 06/17/19 06:09 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Originally Posted by JimBobb
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Originally Posted by JimBobb
How old is Wild Bill anyway? He is running the show for 40 years.



Graduated Air Force Academy in 1970 so he's about 70-71 I imagine.


Wow, what a legend notworthy


In case you haven't seen this video of Wild Bill in Microprose's heyday (starting at 6:40)...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm8VTZ2fyos


thanks !

#4478614 - 06/18/19 07:35 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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#4478627 - 06/18/19 09:51 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
I'm not going to get too excited just yet. I see that 'Will Bill' Stealey is mentioned. Anyone remember M4 Tank Brigade?

Too few details as of yet but I see mobile versions planned.


Never heard of that one but I have fond memories of M1 Tank Platoon. It seems we could be in for an interesting resurgence of simulation products, I'm cautiously hopeful.


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#4478669 - 06/18/19 02:45 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Warbirds went downhill FAST when he took control. He has never been interested in making new and spectacular games/sims. His love is for rebranding the same broken #%&*$# and releasing it under a new name. He has been trying to revitalize warbirds for years now and using the microprose name is just another ploy IMO. The screen shots dont look any different than what is currently in warbirds right now except with a few filters added.

I wouldnt hold my breath. There are many great sims out there and some coming out soon. But I dont have any faith left in wild bill.

#4478678 - 06/18/19 03:38 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Originally Posted by JimBobb
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by JimBobb
How old is Wild Bill anyway? He is running the show for 40 years.



Graduated Air Force Academy in 1970 so he's about 70-71 I imagine.


Wow, what a legend notworthy


In case you haven't seen this video of Wild Bill in Microprose's heyday (starting at 6:40)...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm8VTZ2fyos


That little boxy Tandy joystick she is using to play Falcon at ~6:07 is the joystick I first started simming with, way back in the day. Gunship and F-19 Stealth Fighter, awesome times.

She's using it wrong, too. The stick was designed to be held in the left hand, which would manipulate the two buttons, and your right hand should control the stick using your thumb.

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#4478760 - 06/18/19 09:16 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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There are many great sims out there and some coming out soon


But there are -none- new flight sims being made in the spirit of old Air Warrior, Warbirds, Aces High, WW2 OL.


After many years of nothing, this is the only one that has appeared, so I will wait for the release and try it out before i pass my verdict.

#4478800 - 06/19/19 02:30 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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-none- new flight sims being made in the spirit of old Air Warrior, Warbirds, Aces High, WW2 OL


Hmmm...maybe because:

A. They weren't that good

B. Nothing really different than the available stuff in Sims

C. Graphically challenged...and still is.

BTW JimBobb, may I call you JB? Good, that's settled and look at the pixels we'll save! Worldwide!

So...JB...

Before we go any further discussing this mouse controlled "flight sim"...

In the interest of transparency:

Do you have a financial interest in this "sim"?

Are you an employee of the "developer" and/or "publisher" of this "sim"?

Thanks in advance for the transparency.


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#4478820 - 06/19/19 05:48 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Hmmm...maybe because:

A. They weren't that good

B. Nothing really different than the available stuff in Sims

C. Graphically challenged...and still is.


Flights sims are a niche, MMO flight sims are a niche of a niche, they were very good and fun, anyone who played those games back in the day can vouch for this.

Graphicaly they will always be a little behind the curve because it's a MMO, needs more data to transfer with many players than your usual game.



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Before we go any further discussing this mouse controlled "flight sim"...

In the interest of transparency:

Do you have a financial interest in this "sim"?

Are you an employee of the "developer" and/or "publisher" of this "sim"?

Thanks in advance for the transparency.


lol, i answered this question a couple of pages earlier.


'When someone sees a potentialy good flight sim which one played every day 20 years ago and then nothing on the flight sim market........ one goes crazy

I just have so many good memories from Air Warrior and Warbirds 1990's times..... i want them to come back'

#4478830 - 06/19/19 07:38 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Originally Posted by JimBobb


'When someone sees a potentialy good flight sim which one played every day 20 years ago and then nothing on the flight sim market........ one goes crazy

I just have so many good memories from Air Warrior and Warbirds 1990's times..... i want them to come back'


It's the "nothing on the flight sim market" I'm struggling to understand. As I said earlier...Warbirds has had evolving versions with the most current being a 2019 release. If those aren't hitting the mark for you...Wild Bill has been at the helm for years...I can't see what the excitement is about knowing he's still involved.


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#4478836 - 06/19/19 08:05 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted by Force10
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'When someone sees a potentialy good flight sim which one played every day 20 years ago and then nothing on the flight sim market........ one goes crazy

I just have so many good memories from Air Warrior and Warbirds 1990's times..... i want them to come back'


It's the "nothing on the flight sim market" I'm struggling to understand. As I said earlier...Warbirds has had evolving versions with the most current being a 2019 release. If those aren't hitting the mark for you...Wild Bill has been at the helm for years...I can't see what the excitement is about knowing he's still involved.


From the announcement I understand that MicroProse is developing this new version, which means this Mr. David Lagettie is doing the Unreal Engine 4 version, Wild Bill is a sales guy and not a programmer? This Mr. David Lagettie sounds like he has plenty of experience doing simulators for the military.

#4478841 - 06/19/19 09:20 AM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Force10, didn't you notice from those videos that Wild Bill has a Wharton School MBA?

So, I'm sure that all synergies have been identified and Microprose's heritage can be leveraged to incentivize flight sim stakeholders to invest in this paradigm shift and that Warbirds 2020 can gain traction and maximize monetization enabling further scaleout down the road.

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I'm not a rivet counter.... but those rivets look huge to me. LOL

North American run low and borrow some from a shipyard?


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It looks like a cheap diecast model.

#4478978 - 06/19/19 09:42 PM Re: Microprose is brought back from the dead [Re: JimBobb]  
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Rivets....

Rivets are damned if you do damned if you don't

In every skin I ever made for IL2, the rivets were all too big. Every last one. The 3D models are not large enough to do it accurately as one pixel is too large. And if you omit them, the skins look funny up close. What to do...complain I guess.

But at least I have seen us go from assumptions to actually criticizing a detailed model.

That 3D model looks very, very small to me. I suppose the idea is to have lots of a/c in the air at once. And what is the antenna wire going to? Looks too low to be the mast.


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What I loved about the early Microprose sims that were pre-1991 is they were quick and easy to get into. Missions were relatively short at about 15 minutes to half an hour, and the action picked up quickly and was quite intense. Plus they had charm and character. I didn't mind the lowered realism, and knew even then as a kid some of the stuff the planes sensors were doing such as perfect positional missile track, easy lock ons, hell--even the targeting button were impossible with 1980s technology, but I still didn't mind, because the total package of the sims made up for that.

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