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#4477832 - 06/13/19 01:44 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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what is going to happen to prepar3d?

what is the difference between this and prepar3d/old flight simulator?

are they dumbing down the physics to make this more accessible for idiots? considering it's going to run on xbox i can't help but feel like this is going to be a flight simulator designed for morons and physics modelling to suit said morons.

i would love to see a masterpiece like the majestic dash 8 be ported to a platform that isn't based on 2 decades old code, but really have reservations about getting excited for this product

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#4477850 - 06/13/19 03:01 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: VF9_Longbow]  
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Originally Posted by VF9_Longbow


are they dumbing down the physics to make this more accessible for idiots? considering it's going to run on xbox i can't help but feel like this is going to be a flight simulator designed for morons and physics modelling to suit said morons.



Its said that it'll go out 1st for PC, THEN for Xbox
and dont forget that Xbox1 is more powerfull than a lot of flight simmers PC

Seeing how they said that there is like 2 PETAbyte of data, whole thing might be kinda streamable so no problem either for the console.

I dont think, IMO, that MS will make the same mistake they did with Flight. The trailer so far dont show anything that says ''it'll be made for morons''
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#4477961 - 06/13/19 06:55 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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The word simulator wasn't part of Microsoft Flight.

This new one is bringing the old name back - Microsoft Flight Simulator.

I have a hard time believing it's not going to be the real deal. Also, the picture so far suggests they've been working on this for quite some time. All the past ones weren't truly new from the ground up, yet look at how much work went into each iteration.

I bet this took 10x as long to develop than FSX did...

#4478038 - 06/14/19 09:02 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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I'm intrigued by the weather systems, clouds etc. If they can pull off a flight sim experience at least equal to FSX, plus great weather, I'm in. Will need a new PC though I'll be bound.

VR would be a nice touch too.


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#4478052 - 06/14/19 11:01 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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If the World scenery is a stream, that is the most probable, I hope the aircraft will be on our hard drives.

#4478098 - 06/14/19 02:55 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: DM]  
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Originally Posted by DM
I'm intrigued by the weather systems, clouds etc. If they can pull off a flight sim experience at least equal to FSX, plus great weather, I'm in. Will need a new PC though I'll be bound.

VR would be a nice touch too.



VR is a must for any flight sim now, for me


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#4478103 - 06/14/19 03:35 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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That the scenery is a stream could be a bad thing. The streaming aspect will could off a huge area of past Flight Sim secondary markets.

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#4478187 - 06/15/19 01:21 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
That the scenery is a stream could be a bad thing. The streaming aspect will could off a huge area of past Flight Sim secondary markets.


I strongly disagree. That scenery looks better than Google Earth! What company is going to compete with a TWO PETABYTE scenery package???

I guess it's theoretically possible to improve upon this for a local area, but come on! Give me a criticism of the ground scenery you see in that video!

#4478189 - 06/15/19 01:40 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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Hard to criticize any scenery when they're picking the camera angles, altitude and time of day. Not enough information to form a full opinion yet. Besides, what flight sim in modern history's terrain was "good enough?" We've modded many of them.

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#4478201 - 06/15/19 05:22 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Hard to criticize any scenery when they're picking the camera angles, altitude and time of day. Not enough information to form a full opinion yet. Besides, what flight sim in modern history's terrain was "good enough?" We've modded many of them.


I get your point, but for THAT kind of quality? Just how anal are we going to BE about this? I'll take the most photorealistic scenery over day/time/season adjustments with compromises any time...

Don't get me wrong, I think Microsoft did a great thing with those capabilities, but at the end of the day (pun not intended) I'd rather have the best possible scenery, and I don't care if I'm "flying" at 10pm and it's lit up like broad daylight...

#4478807 - 06/19/19 02:55 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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The one obvious problem with MS Flight Simulator is the lack of guns on the planes.

Hell, mine in real life might be fake, but at least it's up there on the top wing.


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#4480298 - 06/28/19 12:00 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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I for one am following this, I think they're going to come BACK!

Scroll down for the "official statement"...

https://fsi.microsoftstudios.com

I think they can pull this off - I do not predict "vaporware" on this...

1. We are making Microsoft Flight Simulator. Emphasis on the word SIMULATOR.

2. Designed for PC, optimized for multiplatform support (e.g. Xbox).


#4480396 - 06/28/19 02:52 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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For me, the most important parts of this statement are:


3. Yes. We are supporting 3rd Party Content Development and Community Content creation. We are aware of the concerns in the current eco-system and are working to address them.

4. Yes. We genuinely want to work closely with the community in the development of this title.

5. Accessibility is important to us. Whatever your abilities are, if you want to fly, we are going to do whatever we can to make that happen. Yoke and pedals, mouse and keyboard, controller, etc. No pilot should be left behind.

3 and 4..... YEAHHH !!!! 5 Ok.... We will see, at least an FDE a bit better than FSX please.

#4480540 - 06/29/19 04:00 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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For me the most important part is they're starting from scratch.

Well, not to say there won't be "old code" in this, but they're clearly doing a major shift from what could have been "FS11", let alone the disaster that was "Flight"...

It was high time for a "reboot", years ago...

And if they're streaming the scenery from a TWO PETABYTE database? Hey, I'm not at ALL a fan of "internet connection required", but for this, yeah, I'm on board all the way...

I've long dreamed of a flight simulator that could somehow get it's scenery from something like Google Earth, yet still be a flight simulator...

I'm excited...

#4483786 - 07/23/19 01:12 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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"New" cockpit screenshot (July 11th), and another update coming July 25th... https://fsi.microsoftstudios.com

Also an "analysis" video someone made which points out quite a few details I hadn't noticed in the trailer (obviously this person sat down and nitpicked it...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcdBBNAGQpE

#4484164 - 07/26/19 03:25 AM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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Forget their actual update today, but I found THIS video quite interesting...

You'd better be hardcore interested in a new MSFS for this one though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyBeRmOLnBA

#4484204 - 07/26/19 02:00 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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Don't forget that they have now made the XBOX be able to use a Kybd and Mouse. I suspect joystick support could come soon...


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#4484213 - 07/26/19 03:46 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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It will come out on PC before consoles.

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#4484216 - 07/26/19 04:06 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Zamzow]  
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Originally Posted by Zamzow
I for one am following this, I think they're going to come BACK!

Scroll down for the "official statement"...

https://fsi.microsoftstudios.com

I think they can pull this off - I do not predict "vaporware" on this...

1. We are making Microsoft Flight Simulator. Emphasis on the word SIMULATOR.

2. Designed for PC, optimized for multiplatform support (e.g. Xbox).



And then they just add the word COMBAT in there and use the same campaign engine they had for CFS and I am in heaven!

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#4484221 - 07/26/19 04:37 PM Re: Microsoft announces new Flight Simulator [Re: Arthonon]  
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Yes, although this energizes the Sim guy in me, the lack of GUNS on these planes may make it a game that I rarely play.


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