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#4476183 - 05/31/19 03:54 PM Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower.....  
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Now they're gonna make us pay for modules we already bought once;

"The Ka-50 update will consist of new functions such as Igla air-to-air missiles and missile warning systems with infrared missile jamming systems in addition to a substantial graphics overhaul. While new cockpit functions will be part of a paid upgrade, the entirely new and improved cockpit and external model will be available for free. In addition to a graphics overall and new features, we will also take this opportunity to clean up any remaining bugs in the Ka-50."

Translation:

The Ka-50 update will give us opportunity to get some more money from you stupid customers. We invented some new features which you never asked for the existing module which gives us the opportunity to start using this new method of getting more money; make people pay for module features, so from now on, we start intentionally leave some features off from modules, then we can make cash with them later. Obviously you rats ass retards are stupid enough to pay for those. Unfortunately we have to give the new graphics free for you cause we already promised those a year or so ago. We will as usual make some new bugs with the new features and let you enjoy your posting in forums bug section next five years again.

Quote from some individual's post:

"As a compromise, we are giving away the all new and greatly improved external model and cockpit for free to all Ka-50 users."

Nice brainwashing
-- as a compromise?! LOOL F OFF

So we are heading towards times where we should be thankful and pay for them if they make some graphics update after they first modify game's engine and make cockpits look #%&*$#. When are they gonna charge for aircraft skins? Time will tell.

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#4476187 - 05/31/19 04:21 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Many people predicted this after you had to pay twice for the Ka-50. Typical garbage from ED.

#4476188 - 05/31/19 04:22 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Well now now they have officially announced their a-holi-ty.

Can't wait for newsletters saying...

Pre-purchase Mi-24p Hind save 20%
Vikhr missile for Hind, 4.99$
ECM pods for Hind, 4.99$

...

Actually now you see the reason why the old modules haven't been updated for a long time. They left wild card in their sleeve. I'm just waiting for rain droplets to be implemented to L-39, but then again, I guess I would be 4.99$ or more poorer if I got them eventually.

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#4476190 - 05/31/19 04:50 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
Now they're gonna make us pay for modules we already bought once[


You mean twice......they've already done this with Blackshark 2 (aka the original upgrade). Its good to see they're taking an upgrade payware 'opportunity' to bother entertaining fixing the existing bugs because it's not like we expected them to be sorted out 5 years ago.

ED are full of sh1t....hows the F18 coming on?



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#4476191 - 05/31/19 04:56 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Yes my bad, some people have already paid it twice yes frown

Haven't flown F-18 for some time, I'm sure it has its share of bugs.

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#4476194 - 05/31/19 05:14 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
...We invented some new features which you never asked for the existing module which gives us the opportunity to start using this new method of getting more money; make people pay for module features ...



If they are new features that you never asked for and don't want, then just don't pay for the upgrade. You're getting the updated cockpit model, updated graphics, and bug fixes for free, which is what (I think) you do want.

So what exactly are you complaining about here?


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#4476198 - 05/31/19 05:31 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Excuse me? I get bugfixes for free? A new cockpit? I have paid module and I have waited bugfixes for years. Free you say? Really dude? That's the least they should do after braking the cockpit with other "features" they have made.

Because guys like you they get away with this kind of BS. You're obviously not capable of understanding the real meaning of all this. I hope you are capable of understanding the point someday once you're older or something.

Last edited by IceecI; 05/31/19 05:34 PM.

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#4476204 - 05/31/19 06:02 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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The Black Shark "2" (paid upgrade from "1") came out about 8 years ago. It sure seems they are only fixing these bugs now because they are trying to make money on yet another paid upgrade. IMO...I think it should be more of a "We apologize for the persistent bugs over the 8 years since your purchase...here are some free features and upgrades along with bug fixes we should have fixed long ago"

But that's not what's happening here.


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#4476210 - 05/31/19 06:38 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
Excuse me? I get bugfixes for free? A new cockpit? I have paid module and I have waited bugfixes for years. Free you say? Really dude? That's the least they should do after braking the cockpit with other "features" they have made.

Because guys like you they get away with this kind of BS. You're obviously not capable of understanding the real meaning of all this. I hope you are capable of understanding the point someday once you're older or something.


Originally Posted by Force10
The Black Shark "2" (paid upgrade from "1") came out about 8 years ago. It sure seems they are only fixing these bugs now because they are trying to make money on yet another paid upgrade. IMO...I think it should be more of a "We apologize for the persistent bugs over the 8 years since your purchase...here are some free features and upgrades along with bug fixes we should have fixed long ago"

But that's not what's happening here.


So you're not upset about what they're offering (again - bug fixes, textures updated, model updates for free), but they way the worded the announcement? Or is it how long its taken?

Because your original post seemed to be upset about some money grab. But the "paid" part of this upgrade is completely optional and seems to be of no interest to you anyway.

Also not sure how me getting "older" has anything to do with it... Actually, I find that as I get older I seem to spend less time getting worked up over video game updates and more time focusing on other more important things...

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#4476211 - 05/31/19 06:46 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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So you're not upset about what they're offering (again - bug fixes, textures updated, model updates for free), but they way the worded the announcement? Or is it how long its taken?

Because your original post seemed to be upset about some money grab. But the "paid" part of this upgrade is completely optional and seems to be of no interest to you anyway.

Also not sure how me getting "older" has anything to do with it... Actually, I find that as I get older I seem to spend less time getting worked up over video game updates and more time focusing on other more important things...


I can still read between the lines...

However I have to give it to you; You hid it well. Truly a skill which only can be learned in specific forums...

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#4476214 - 05/31/19 07:09 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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@Malibu43: The problem isn't the update, the problem is that they abandoned the module 8 years ago, gave the finger to anyone asking for a completed module. And now, after 8 years, they implement bug fixes and make it seem like they're a charity and we should be grateful for them.

#4476216 - 05/31/19 07:15 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
So you're not upset about what they're offering (again - bug fixes, textures updated, model updates for free), but they way the worded the announcement? Or is it how long its taken?

Because your original post seemed to be upset about some money grab. But the "paid" part of this upgrade is completely optional and seems to be of no interest to you anyway.

Also not sure how me getting "older" has anything to do with it... Actually, I find that as I get older I seem to spend less time getting worked up over video game updates and more time focusing on other more important things...


I can still read between the lines...

However I have to give it to you; You hid it well. Truly a skill which only can be learned in specific forums...


I honestly am not sure what you're talking about now.


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#4476221 - 05/31/19 07:48 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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#4476223 - 05/31/19 07:56 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
Excuse me? I get bugfixes for free? A new cockpit? I have paid module and I have waited bugfixes for years. Free you say? Really dude? That's the least they should do after braking the cockpit with other "features" they have made.

Because guys like you they get away with this kind of BS. You're obviously not capable of understanding the real meaning of all this. I hope you are capable of understanding the point someday once you're older or something.


Why the drama? Why attack Malibu? Your pissed off at ED

You start labeling people stupid rat ass retards. Come on man! Pull up your pants

This is a classic example of dumbing down the conversation. Something learned at a specific forum?? hmmmmm…..



#4476230 - 05/31/19 08:56 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: bisher]  
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"Why the drama? Why attack Malibu? Your pissed off at ED

You start labeling people stupid rat ass retards. Come on man! Pull up your pants

This is a classic example of dumbing down the conversation. Something learned at a specific forum?? hmmmmm….."

And here we go again..


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#4476232 - 05/31/19 09:23 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: malibu43]  
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Originally Posted by malibu43


So you're not upset about what they're offering (again - bug fixes, textures updated, model updates for free), but they way the worded the announcement? Or is it how long its taken?

Because your original post seemed to be upset about some money grab. But the "paid" part of this upgrade is completely optional and seems to be of no interest to you anyway.


I'm guessing you don't own/play the module or you'd understand. The fact this module has been long forgotten about when at one stage it was one of the most polished alongside the A10C....only to have features broken and bugs introduced with engine updates and patches for other aircraft (and fundamental issues if trying to play in VR)......then lo and behold ED make out they're doing some bug fixes from the bottom of their hearts and we should feel very lucky.......and all because they're releasing some payware. Basically, they wouldn't bother their arse to fix their own broken software if they couldn't make some money out of it.


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#4476236 - 05/31/19 10:15 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: Force10]  
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I'm so old, I remember when I pre-purchased Black Shark and the A-10 with the promise of Nevada. Which is why I've not purchased anything related to ED, other than donations to LockOnFiles, since at least June of 2013.

#4476239 - 05/31/19 10:42 PM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Do I have this correct? ED is including the updates in a 'pay ware'.


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#4476248 - 06/01/19 12:12 AM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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whats the fuss about?

From what I understand its basically freeupdate.

unless you want additional KA50 gadget like IR denier with additinal monitor in cockpit.

#4476262 - 06/01/19 06:27 AM Re: Just when you thought ED couldn't go any lower..... [Re: IceecI]  
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Nadal, can you tell me why did you use the phrase "free update" and refer it as a good thing.... seems like updates aren't free normally... yea this is how it works.

KraziKanuK - the update for cockpit is free but some dials and other stuff to cockpit probably will cost 20-50$. So You should be grateful for now and praise ED for making update for a cockpit which they made look bad and the problems with it they ignored many years.


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