#4475762 - 05/28/19 10:04 AM
Anyone still working on EECH-Allmods?
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Hello, sadly I had not much time for my hobby nearly the last two years, cause many things in my life changed again But now it is foreseeable that I will have time again to come back to it. I think this will be Sep-Oct this year. As I had started with the KA-50 Cockpit in 2017, I want to finish it once I have time again. Anyone else working at EECH, or is this outstanding attack-heli simulator now really dead?
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#4476174 - 05/31/19 02:45 PM
Re: Anyone still working on EECH-Allmods?
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Really sad that no one cares about EECH-Allmods anymore. It's still the only attack helo sim we have today.
DCS has brought a lot of interesting fighters the last year, but I think we have to last a while before we will see an Apache or even a Cobra in DCS. Especially for the reason that they have enough work to bring those new modules out of early access.
I will do my best to finish the KA-50 pit later this year, but I'm not able to fix the incorrect instruments. I also want to make a newer version of the Havoc cockpit, but there have to be some new instruments too and maybe a gunner seat. I'm no coder, so all I can do is what I've already tried with the KA-50, but this want be enough for an upgraded MI-28.
If no one else is working at EECH, I will use 1.15.4 again, cause in my opinion its still the best version we have and it has the most functional options and flyable helos.
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#4477100 - 06/07/19 05:11 PM
Re: Anyone still working on EECH-Allmods?
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I still believe that 1.15.4 is the best option at the moment, as long as no one of the old coders is comming back to EECH.
There is already a flyable Blackhawk in, the Havoc has working instruments and you have the option to use clickable cockpits. The FARP collision problem can easily be fixed and the missing eyecandy arround the airbases is also possible to make.
O.K. it's only DX7, but all the benefits of 1.16.0 Fix 1 are irrelevant as long as no one comes back to the project and will fix important things, like helo cockpits not working etc.
Since my latetst activities two years ago nothing changed and we still have an unfinished version 1.16.0. I can totally understand that many guys of the old project haven't time anymore to work on EECH. I also had no time for two years now, but that's why I think let's keep on working at 1.15.4 and make some easy to do bugfixing and eyecandy.
Better a working 1.15.4 with DX7 as an always unfinshed 1.16.0 with 50% of the helos not working correctly.
That's the reason why so many good mods for simulations have died. The community want's to make a totally new upgrade, things get more complex, many of the guys lost their interest or have no more time to work on it and at the end you have a nearly unuseable, unfinished game. Why not improving something, that is already relatively stable and has the most options?
That was my point of view two years ago, and how things are at the moment, I believe I was right back those days.
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#4477111 - 06/07/19 05:50 PM
Re: Anyone still working on EECH-Allmods?
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I agree- for 1.15.4 I only miss great Javelin flight model.Cant play without this. Disagree- 1.16 is hundreds changes in the physics of the flight of missiles, in the explosion parameters everything is compatible with the available data.
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#4477237 - 06/08/19 07:45 PM
Re: Anyone still working on EECH-Allmods?
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Andy that has nothing to to with "not keeping their word", but two years ago I tried to get some people working on EECH again only to finish some bugs in 1.15.4, what was in my opinion the most perfected version at this time. Nothing more.
I don't wanted to start a new "modding-session", only fix the bugs in the cockpits and the FARP-collision problem, so that we could have a relatively stable version of EECH Allmods with the most features and flyable helicopters which were ever integrated.
But no one wants this, all wanted to work further at 1.16.0, but no one except some guys did it. Now two years later we still have no working pits in the Mi-28, the KA-50 and still no flyable Blackhawk. And I believe this will never change, cause 1.16.0 is to complex to understand for most of us.
I 'm not having the prospects to work at the code, if I could I already had fixed the buggy instruments in the KA-50 in 1.15.4 or even in 1.16.0. All that was possible to me, was learning some 3D to make new cockpit- or helo models. I'm really no coder and will never be, but I wanted to make my contribution to the project, so I tried 3D.
Altogether we maybe could have enough knowledge to fix 1.15.4 and who knows, even to integrate some new helicopters like an AH-1F (I did some work on a model) and add things like more trees and buildings etc.
1.15.4 is DX7 and what I've heard from this thread two years ago, much simpler in case of making new helicopter or instruments working, cause its better documented.
That's all what I mean. 1.16.0 may be much more advanced, but at the moment ist isn't finished and it is much more complex to do this. No one of the old code gurus is working at EECH-Allmods and I believe this will never happen again. So why not trying to fix and pimp 1.15.4, where most of the programming is easier to do. This way EECH-Allmods could still be alive. O.k. DX7 isn't as nice as DX9 but a for real helicopter freak graphics aren't that much important but working instruments are!
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#4477322 - 06/09/19 07:25 PM
Re: Anyone still working on EECH-Allmods?
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Hi Javelin,
I mean the engine statusbars in the MI-28 Havoc. Had no time to look at it for a few months, but as far as I know messyhead was able to get the needles in the gauges working again, but not the engine status bars.
The KA-50 has totally buged gauges. They aren't at the right place and do not show correct informations. I was working on a new KA-50 cockpit two years ago, but only the 3D part. I have not the knowledge to correct the instruments. I was hoping that someone else could do this, if the pit is ready.
Sadly some things in my life changed then and I also had to move to another place. Now, about September to October I will have more time for working at EECH again, but I have to completely relearn the whole 3D-modelling ;-) It's too long ago and there where much other things I have to deal with.
I wanted to make a gunner cockpit for the Havoc and maybe a more actual version of the pilot cockpit also, after the work on the KA-50 is finished. In parallel I have startet to make a AH-1F Cobra (the one with the flat canopy glass / the work horse of the US Army before the Apache AH-64A appears), but there is still much, much work to be done.
I have no problem to use 1.16.0 Fix 1, if the work goes on, but I have the fear that it will stop again, before the most important things are fixed. It's much more time-consuming to get things working in 1.16 than in 1.15. That was at least what I read in this forum two years ago, but as said I'm no coder, so we have to ask someone who knows this stuff.
I will do my best to help starting the work on EECH again, also I have another project which I want to finish the next two years, my homecockpit. But the remaining time I could do some 3D moddeling for EECH. It really would be nice to revive EECH allmods again and with the help of some other guys too, I think we could do this.
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#4477324 - 06/09/19 07:38 PM
Re: Anyone still working on EECH-Allmods?
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Hello Javelin. Wow,You made one of the best and most important mods to eech, a real milestone.if the next mod will be similar, then I can not wait Can you unveil the secret what will it be?
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