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#4473651 - 05/10/19 06:21 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Both machine guns are now fitted along with their synchronization flexible drives.
These drives are connected between the bottom of the gun breech blocks and the gun synchronization mechanism, fitted to the rear of the engine cam shaft,

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#4473944 - 05/13/19 04:56 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
I've added the padding rim around the fuselage decking panel and onto the top of the cockpit side frames.
This was done using 2.0 mm diameter plastic tube which was sanded to form a grip for painting.
Then it was slit along one side and located over the decking and secured in position with thin CA adhesive.
Finally it was primed, painted 'Humbrol' leather (62) and 'Tamiya' Hull Red (XF9), sealed then given a clay wash and finally sealed with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC-311).


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#4473961 - 05/13/19 08:04 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Tail unit assembled from the 3D printed parts.
Very fragile once separated from the support frame, so should prove interesting.
The elevator was missing the inboard trailing edge profile, presumably missed during printing process.
Therefore I had to make the profiles using 0.8 mm brass tube.

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#4473963 - 05/13/19 08:32 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Do you have plans to separate the tail and rudder flaps and apply hinges? That would be a real challenge due to those fragile parts.


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#4474011 - 05/14/19 07:55 AM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi Rob,
No I've fixed it all in position as it's too weak to be movable.
I'll make dummy hinges etc though, just to add a touch of realism,

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#4474322 - 05/16/19 04:15 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Well the fuselage is completed, apart from fitting the engine exhaust and the propeller.
The Rudder and Elevator control runs have been connected with the turnbuckles under the pilot's seat.
Also the tail plane to fin bracing cable.
The entire fuselage has been weathered and sealed.

So now it's on to the lower wing, followed by scratch building the skeletal undercarriage assembly, which unfortunately is not available as a 3D printed part.

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#4474330 - 05/16/19 05:03 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Mike;

It looks magnificent Sir!! A splendid superior piece of work!

Can I suggest that you "NEVER ATTEMPT TO SHIP IT ANYWHERE" !!!!

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#4474496 - 05/17/19 04:54 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The 3D printed lower wing is detailed enough, but as normal there are details that can be added to make it more authentic.
Early production Fokker D.VII aircraft were fitted with bracing tapes that were routed across the wings between the front and rear wing spars and between the rear wing spar and the wing trailing edge.
These tapes were routed in a diagonal ‘zig-zag’ form, up and over each wing rib.
However later production aircraft were fitted with 10 mm square strip wood as replacements for the earlier tapes.
The 3D printed wings represent the later, strip wood version.
Although these strip wood struts can be left to make the model build easier, I've chosen to remove the wings strip wood struts and represent the earlier bracing tapes.

In addition, the two wing halves, when test joined at the centre section spars, showed a higher than expected dihedral angle.
Therefore I had to shave away material from the spars to achieve the correct angle.

Finally the leading edges of both wings were fitted with 'saw tooth' plywood fairings, which will need to be scratch made, as will the trailing edge support wire for attaching the linen covering.

So far:
Spars adjusted.
Strip wood bracing removed.
Diagonal bracing struts added to inner and outer trailing edges.
Holes drilled at the wing strut attachment points for attaching the wings internal cross bracing cables.
Wings scrapped clean of wax support material, assembled and primed.

The upper wing, which is in three sections, will require similar treatment.

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#4474530 - 05/18/19 12:30 AM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Never realized the internal wing had early and late variations. What source did you reference that from Mike?


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#4474553 - 05/18/19 09:53 AM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi Rob,
Don't worry about shipping this - it's staying right here!!
References from various drawings and books, like those below,

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#4474557 - 05/18/19 11:46 AM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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#4474582 - 05/18/19 04:01 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The leading edge plywood 'saw tooth' fairing is tricky to do, but can be done.
Structure drawing of 1/72 scale resized by 160%, then printed, cut out and used as a template on 0.2 mm thick plastic card.
The fairing is test fitted and adjusted where necessary then secured in position using thin CA adhesive.
Starting on the top of the front wing spar then once set, rolling the wing over the fairing and applying adhesive at the same time.,

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#4474882 - 05/20/19 09:13 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The lower wing is nearing completion.
It's been painted with 'Tamiya' base coat then oils for wood effect.
Internal wing bracing with turnbuckles added.
Leading edge 'transportation 'bump stops' added.
Internal double bracing 'zig-zag' tapes installed (instead of the original 'strip wood' struts, which were removed).

I still have the trailing edge wire to install (for attaching the wings linen covering).
Also the final weathering will need to be added


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#4474892 - 05/20/19 10:40 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Amazing work Mike. You give us mortals something to aspire too. I can’t wait to see this one finished.


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Mike what are the "leading edge transportation bump stops" and where is that located?

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Hi Rob,
When the wings were removed for transportation, they were stacked vertically on the leading edges as they were the strongest edge. 'Bump stops' ('stacking pads') were fitted into the leading edges to keep the leading edge surfaces clear and prevent any damage.
On the wing leading edge, you can just make out these pads, one fitted to each side of the wing, forward from the wing strut mountings.

The lower wing is finished now, with the trailing edge wire fitted and overall 'dumbing down' carried out using 'Alclad' Light Sheen lacquer mixed with 'Tamiya' Smoke (X19).

So now it's on to scratch making the undercarriage fairing and axle assembly (not available as a 3D printed part),

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#4474967 - 05/21/19 06:32 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Mike, so did you carve your initials on a spar, or leave a good luck note tucked in the wing for the pilot? Again, your attention to detail is amazing. Next time I see a model of a DVII I can say, “I see you left off the bump stops.”


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Good one MFair, I wish I had thought of that biggrin ! It's still do-able!!!


Mike:

Thanks for explaining the bump stops details.

I looked back over all your posts and couldn't find a reference to what the source material was for the wing bracing tape.

Best regards to all

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#4475078 - 05/22/19 07:12 PM Re: OT - Fokker pair No.2 [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi Rob,
Early Fokker D.VII aircraft had tapes between the front and rear wing spars and between the rear spar and trailing edge.
Later aircraft, such as those produced by OAW, replaced the tapes with strip wood.
Other had tapes and strip wood.,

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Originally Posted by Sandbagger
Hi Rob,
Early Fokker D.VII aircraft had tapes between the front and rear wing spars and between the rear spar and trailing edge.
Later aircraft, such as those produced by OAW, replaced the tapes with strip wood.
Other had tapes and strip wood.,

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Mike I didn't properly explain my question. I was interested in what material you used for the tape rather that the source reference material. Was it scratch built tape and if so what did you use?
Curious minds like to know! biggrin


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