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#4473979 - 05/13/19 10:08 PM Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed  
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#4473982 - 05/13/19 10:20 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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oh well ... someone finally treated a dcs employee, just like they treat people on the forum.
it looks like f16 will not come out in 2025, but so near 2030.

#4474003 - 05/14/19 03:31 AM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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#4474025 - 05/14/19 11:43 AM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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https://kotaku.com/russian-man-jailed-for-buying-f-16-manuals-claims-they-1834736398

What an idiot, but i’m genuinely not surprised. Considering the legal mess Eagle Dynamics is it doesn’t surprise me that something as dumb as this happens to them.

No doubt ED will use this as a positive marketing spin “see how realistic our models are!” or some other nonsense like that.

I wish this news would surprise me, but doing stupid things for no reason whatsoever has become kinda a requirement on their job application form, so there’s that.

The real kicker comes that under swiss law, if they decide to press charges against Tishchenko, the entire board can be extradited and pressed charges against. In any case, the judicial administration costs will be ED’s, even if Tishchenko is cleared.

So yeah, in ED’s case, I really hope that the investigation will be kept narrow.

#4474043 - 05/14/19 01:46 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4474048 - 05/14/19 02:08 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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Way over in Perth, Western Aus...
Is this Chuck Owl?


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#4474052 - 05/14/19 02:37 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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Why try to smuggle anything? Just have the manuals put into PDF format and upload. Seems like it would be a lot cheaper than paying for a round trip flight/hotel/rental car +taking any chance on being arrested. OR just download the BMS manual ... LOL.

#4474055 - 05/14/19 02:46 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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Way over in Perth, Western Aus...
Or just go here:
https://mega.nz/#F!WR9hwQoK!NXGsaNB-30aOO8Ki_KS0tA!GR1gjQpT


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#4474056 - 05/14/19 03:01 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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I guess there might have been more than user manuals. Maybe some maintenance, maybe some classified datas.

Still, that's a very strange story.

I'm all for detailed and realistic procedures, but sometimes I think life would be easier if we'd play some "slightly fantasy" planes, like the "G16 Balcon", the "PU-27" and the likes, if you get what I mean.

As long as it's a fun game with detailed systems, even if not as hardcore 90% fidelity as BMS or A10/F18 DCS, it could sell nicely with much less hassle.

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#4474075 - 05/14/19 05:18 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: rollnloop.]  
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We don't know anything except that whatever it is that he took was protected by ITAR. It could well be the same stuff that's floating around the internet.

Originally Posted by rollnloop.
I guess there might have been more than user manuals. Maybe some maintenance, maybe some classified datas.

Still, that's a very strange story.


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#4474076 - 05/14/19 05:19 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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#4474079 - 05/14/19 05:48 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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^^I expected it exactly. he does everything alone without their knowledge blah blah Standard bs. do not even they believe it

#4474101 - 05/14/19 07:05 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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Not good. Dude was trying to sell this info.

https://www.scribd.com/document/409901537/18313672245

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#4474102 - 05/14/19 07:23 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: brian_b]  
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Why, because you said so? Wags in particular held some sort of clearance given his past work, so he knows how this stuff works. The MIBs can easily pay him a visit and he'd certainly not want such a thing, nor would ED wish to be barred from contracts with certain entities based upon Oleg's adventures - and they may well be asked to prove this.
So you can bet that if they say they weren't involved, you'll have an extremely hard time proving that they were.

Originally Posted by brian_b
^^I expected it exactly. he does everything alone without their knowledge blah blah Standard bs. do not even they believe it


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#4474104 - 05/14/19 07:28 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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Im hopeful that DCS is in the clear, but it cant be good since Oleg was advertising this search for material not "publicly" released on their forums while being an active employee!

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#4474106 - 05/14/19 07:39 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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"The Company develops all of its DCS aircraft game modules exclusively on the basis of publicly available information and has never used nor tried to obtain any classified information."
One lie is enough GrayGhost?

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#4474110 - 05/14/19 07:53 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: rollnloop.]  
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Originally Posted by rollnloop.
I'm all for detailed and realistic procedures, but sometimes I think life would be easier if we'd play some "slightly fantasy" planes, like the "G16 Balcon", the "PU-27" and the likes, if you get what I mean.

Their current modules are already that spec.

In any case, Timoshchenko will want to prove the ‘I did it for ED’-argument in court, so we’ll see the evidence, and whether ED knew about it, eventually.

However, the fact that he travels to the US for the documents, instead of just let the employee who is based in the US, and is the producer of the videogame, take care of the bidding and collecting of the documents, is quite strange, although not outside the realm of ED-logic.

@Wedge: the dropbox link is 404

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#4474113 - 05/14/19 08:27 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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@Vaderini..thx for the heads up..it was the same info as the scribd doc and must have been taken down.

#4474117 - 05/14/19 08:45 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: Marc]  
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Wedge, the link is good. Could be because Vaderini is in Europe.


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#4474134 - 05/14/19 11:58 PM Re: Oleg Mikhaylovich Tishchenko developer for Eagle Dynamics jailed [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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#%&*$#, that scribd doc really spells it out.

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