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#4473414 - 05/08/19 04:15 PM Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ?  
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Say it is not Wildlands related.

GHOST RECON REVEAL


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#4473415 - 05/08/19 04:19 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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Originally Posted by WangoTango
Say it is not Wildlands related.

GHOST RECON REVEAL



Don't hold your breath. I seriously doubt this will be a return to the gameplay and style of the original title by Red Storm Entertainment in 2001.


With that said, I've played quite a bit of Wildlands in cooperative mode and it's a lot of fun and it's not nearly as "arcadey" as most people think it is.


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#4473418 - 05/08/19 04:38 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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They will never return to the originals gameplay. They are in the money making business. Personally I am not a fan of third person shooters, so I really doubt it will appeal to me also.


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#4473420 - 05/08/19 04:43 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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Wildlands was the first shooter I've enjoyed in a long time. I wish the Division had been like it. More of the same but new environment would be wonderful. That's what I would expect, Ubi does these games in pairs at LEAST. I'd like a real Rainbow Six while we're at it, and more Splinter Cell please.


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#4473421 - 05/08/19 04:43 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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My guess:

New SplinterCell game, using the Wildlands Open world map (Had a mission with Sam awhile back...)

OR

New GRW based on the new Jon Bernthal character and just released missions.

I highly suspect #2


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#4473422 - 05/08/19 04:48 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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Splinter Cell Blacklist was really fantastic but it’s been several years now and there’s no mention of a SC follow up. I think that franchise is done.

As for Rainbow Six, “Siege” is the new normal now. Ubi has made way too much from it to change the formula again any time soon.


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#4473423 - 05/08/19 04:56 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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Somewhere last year I read something about a new SC and Ironside was returning to voice it. I think it mentioned he'd been pretty sick and that's why they used the other guy with Blacklist. I was fine with the actor after I got used to it, but it would be cool to see Michael back. Can't remember where I read that. Might have even been the year before. Ubi really screwed up their releases with these games when COD and BF scared them off.


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#4473424 - 05/08/19 04:58 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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At least they seem to continue to support their games with content. Although I don't care for the yearly season passes in R6 Siege.


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You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed
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#4473425 - 05/08/19 05:07 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Somewhere last year I read something about a new SC and Ironside was returning to voice it. I think it mentioned he'd been pretty sick and that's why they used the other guy with Blacklist. I was fine with the actor after I got used to it, but it would be cool to see Michael back. Can't remember where I read that. Might have even been the year before. Ubi really screwed up their releases with these games when COD and BF scared them off.



I didn't know Ironside was having health issues but Blacklist was released in 2013. 6 years is still a long time and there's still no official announcement about a follow up SC game.


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#4473426 - 05/08/19 05:08 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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I'll take another Wildlands over the bullet spongy enemies from The Division any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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Can't find the article specifically, but there are some mentions about a new SC game. I don't think they would've had him in Wildlands if not to tease something. I suspect they voiced that while working on the new one. Why else would you get Ironside in, just for a single mission in GR? Nah.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/03/13/listing-for-tom-clancys-splinter-cell-2018-spotted

Even that is a year old, but this is Ubisoft we're talking about. It's TRADITION to hold off any release "until Q1 of the fiscal year". Maybe we'll see both games announced? I've always said they should do crossover stories between GR, Rainbow and SC, the way they did the co-op in Chaos Theory. Independent, but you could play them alongside to get the grander storyline.


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#4473431 - 05/08/19 05:30 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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Thanks for that info RK! I guess all we can do is wait and see what materializes.


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#4473436 - 05/08/19 06:54 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: WangoTango]  
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Guiillemot said that SC would come back if they could do something "new and different"
Not, it is dead and we aren't doing that anymore.

RB6 just got a new year of Content, so that it off the table.
It has to be either GRW or SC.

Seeing that I played the snot out of both titles for months, I would be happy either way!
If they could incorporate some of the stealth stuff from SC into GRW I would be ecstatic.
I love shooting out the lights, attacking from the ceiling, and pulling tangos out of windows.
And who doesn't like stashing bodies so they won't be found?!?

(The best was tossing the DB's out of the window into the ocean on that "lighthouse mission" in Blacklist. Bwahahahaha.


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Originally Posted by wormfood
I'll take another Wildlands over the bullet spongy enemies from The Division any day of the week and twice on Sundays.


Even Far Cry New Dawn went the bullet sponge route. I don't have high hopes, but Wildlands was crap anyways. Great map design but 3rd person and garbage AI, vehicle handling, spawns, poor mission design are horrific story weren't anything to look to. I think they can make a good sequel. I just hope they can make it 1st person. 3rd person is utterly garbage for a shooting based game. Would help differentiate it from The Division as well.

I'd like to see a Splinter Cell game return to its roots. Blacklist was garbage. Broken controls, action based, and linear maps. Bring back Chaos theory which was stealth based, interrogations, and an open map that you have to travel around. Please don't be open world either.

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Chaos Theory for me is the pinnacle of the SC series.


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I've been really wanting a new Splinter Cell that is Michael Ironside voice acted and focused on the nuts and bolts of what made the first three games great. I would even take a new SC game made in the Chaos Theory engine. Blacklist wasn't a return to what made the originals so good like I thought they were implying with their original previews. It was better than Conviction that changed things way too much but I still greatly disliked the voice actor and shooting mechanics including all of the "Hollywood" sound effects that are over done such as the effects that tell you you are about to be seen or you've killed someone. Those things I hate, hurts my ears and takes away from the immersion. I greatly dislike Ubisoft's treatment of the Tom Clancy franchises. I really wish the brand would get into another developer's hands or for Ubisoft management to be swept clean and positions filled with someone else who can deliver something that is truly a spiritual successor to the older games, remains faithful to what made those good, while still incorporating newer tech like motion capture and updated game play mechanics. However I would still love to have them at least for keyboard users, model the middle mouse button analog motion for Sam Fisher.

They have really diminished and almost ruined in some cases the Clancy franchise in my opinion. Though a new ip, the hour I spent with a free trial of The Division was horrible. I thought it was absolute trash.

I would love to see Ubisoft remake Splinter Cell and Pandora Tomorrow in the Chaos Theory Engine and then remaster Chaos Theory and release them again. I would even like to see Double Agent re-done as the PC port always has terrible problems. For some reason the original Xbox version was infinitely superior.

Knowing the kind of games they make now it probably won't happen, but at the very least I want to see them bring back Michael Ironside who is Sam Fisher for one more adventure. He would portray that old soldier all the more now.

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I really liked Blacklist. A slick game that in some ways I prefer to CT. I won't say it's a better game, but I liked it.

I've been playing Division 2 off and on. Didn't play the first, but got D2 bundled with my processor. It's pretty good. I enjoy the combat, but the rest of the game is meh. But fun combat can see any game through. A little too much enemy-rushing, but otherwise I have fun with it in small doses.

As an aside, AMDs redeem process almost made me just say screw it. It's that bad, and irritating, and it sucks.

Game isn't bad, and it was free-ish anyway.


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#4473456 - 05/08/19 09:00 PM Re: Ghost Recon reveal tomorrow ? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Chaos Theory for me is the pinnacle of the SC series.


Pinnacle of GAMING IMO. Still my all time favorite. Campaign, co-op and insanely good and original MP.

If they would return to SC on a single, fully loaded map, it would make a big difference. Blacklist was better than Conviction in that area, but it still wasn't an open environment to operate in.
Otherwise, it was pretty close and they ditched the drama crap from DA and Conviction. I liked it a lot, but it was no CT.


Originally Posted by Coot
I would even like to see Double Agent re-done as the PC port always has terrible problems. For some reason the original Xbox version was infinitely superior.


It didn't have the mini games that were so irritating and still had the light/sound meters. Looked horrible, but oh well.
IIRC SC was redone on the PS3(?). On pc, it still looks great to me, just the faces fall short. Can't beat the atmosphere though.


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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite


Pinnacle of GAMING IMO. .



It's impossible for me to narrow the entire gaming experience to one single game but Chaos Theory is definitely in my top 20 games of all time list.


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Hahah!!

Sh*tballs! was heard from the Ubi Development Team last night...

Somebody put up the Game Title on a Ubi Web Store

Ghost Recon Breakpoint

Team Ghost has to fight against Cole Walker and his mechanized army on an island.

Coming out Oct 4th for all versions of console/PC


There is your first rumour!


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