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#4570970 - 06/04/21 03:43 PM Re: The Biggest Reason Why Our Nations Highways Should of Had Dedicated Truck Lanes 50 Years Ago [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by CyBerkut
Just saw this:

https://singularityhub.com/2021/06/...untry-42-faster-than-a-human-driver/amp/

Not truly driverless when you read the story... but a definite sign of what is to come.



An interesting development indeed but one that will need to have many, many questions answered. One of the big ones that comes to mind is legal liability. Suppose the AI malfunctions and makes an error in judgement and causes an accident? Who would be held legally liable? The owner of the truck? The developer of the AI software?


Yes, the legal stuff could be quite a quagmire early on. I half-way expect the A.I. purveyors to learn (perhaps the hard way) to sell the product on the condition that there always be a safety driver to oversee things, putting the onus upon the truck owners. If the A.I.s build up enough of a safety record eventually, then I could see that condition going away.

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#4570981 - 06/04/21 04:33 PM Re: The Biggest Reason Why Our Nations Highways Should of Had Dedicated Truck Lanes 50 Years Ago [Re: CyBerkut]  
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Originally Posted by CyBerkut
Just saw this:

https://singularityhub.com/2021/06/...untry-42-faster-than-a-human-driver/amp/

Not truly driverless when you read the story... but a definite sign of what is to come.


Yep. Truckers are toast.

Once a true central AI grid is implemented into roadways that autonomous AIs can snap into and access, they'll have situational awareness that could drastically exceed what our own brains are capable of.

Plus, AI is able to monitor all the sensors in a vehicle better than a human can--things such as engine temps, tire temps/pressures--heck, even tire wear sensors. What I'm a bit concerned about is Tesla's reliance on image recognition for self driving, versus the lidar tech that is used by most other manufacturers. Like or not, image recognition can be fooled--so can lidar, but lidar is an active technology that creates flowing data points that may be less prone to interpretation errors. Perhaps a melding of the two technologies would be the best solution, so if any discrepancies are detected in one, they can be cross referenced with a second layer of technology, increasing accuracy further.

#4570982 - 06/04/21 04:37 PM Re: The Biggest Reason Why Our Nations Highways Should of Had Dedicated Truck Lanes 50 Years Ago [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman



Once a true central AI grid is implemented into roadways that autonomous AIs can snap into and access, they'll have situational awareness that could drastically exceed what our own brains are capable of.





I do believe this will happen but not in my lifetime. When it takes my county government and local contractors 5 fricking years to add 2 extra lanes to a neighborhood city street, how long would it take for a national road network to be upgraded so it can use this central AI grid that you mentioned? My educated guess is decades.


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#4570987 - 06/04/21 05:01 PM Re: The Biggest Reason Why Our Nations Highways Should of Had Dedicated Truck Lanes 50 Years Ago [Re: Haggart]  
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Factories/storage facilities are already have AI to move stuff around.


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#4571186 - 06/07/21 03:31 PM Re: The Biggest Reason Why Our Nations Highways Should of Had Dedicated Truck Lanes 50 Years Ago [Re: Haggart]  
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I think we have a quite good system here in Germany, overtaking on the right is not alowed, only on the left lanes. And it is forbidden to stay on the left lanes, they are only for overtaking. If you overtook a car, you have go back to the right lane again.That said, if it doesn`t make sense to go right again, because there are a lot of trucks on the right lane, you can stay left of the trucks, because you are continueously overtaking, so to say.

And yes, I think longhaul goods should be hauled by train, preferring trucks was a politcal error. Swiss and Austria have a much higher percentage of goods transported by train, because they have the political will to do so.


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#4571237 - 06/08/21 02:25 AM Re: The Biggest Reason Why Our Nations Highways Should of Had Dedicated Truck Lanes 50 Years Ago [Re: Haggart]  
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75% of Trucks, SUVs, cars, motorcycles, are all in a competition to see who the worst driver is. And they probably learned to drive by playing GTA.

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