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#4468993 - 04/05/19 06:45 AM Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days  
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/us/grand-canyon-deaths/index.html

the avg number of deaths in the Grand Canyon is 12 per year - some of the deaths are related to people taking "selfies"


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#4468999 - 04/05/19 10:22 AM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Quite a few people in the world are IDIOTS. There's not much more you can say than that.


I went to the Grand Canyon in January of 2016 and I saw one lady from my tour group stand near the edge of the canyon and she started jumping up and down while her friend took a photo of her doing the stupid antics.

As for me? I NEVER got closer than 10 feet to the edge of the rim and I still had a great time and enjoyed the view.


Thank you very much.

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#4469011 - 04/05/19 12:02 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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This has gone on for too long, we must fill in this dangerous so called "natural wonder".

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#4469013 - 04/05/19 12:16 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Panzer... "As for me? I NEVER got closer than 10 feet to the edge of the rim and I still had a great time and enjoyed the view."

exactly !

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What’s the secret shot I have to get in Grand Canyon National Park?

There’s a little ledge near the trailhead of the South Kaibab Trail that isn’t exactly secret – but it is off the path and offers a view that almost makes it appear as though you’re floating over the canyon below. It’s easy to access and worth the shot. Venture out as far as your courage will take you and check out the view; there are about a million amazing photo opportunities in the park, but this was the one that had me gasping aloud when I saw it for the first time.

Pro Tip #4: Think twice before you take real risks for a photo. I get it – I’m a photographer, and you want to get the shot! But it’s not a bad idea to ask yourself if the photo is worth dying for.


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#4469014 - 04/05/19 12:27 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Yes F4U, those unfortunates most probably have passed on their genes.

That is closer than I would have got PM. I think my slight phobia about heights was because I fell down the basement stairs when almost 5. Thought I could walk down the stairs but only made on step before going head first. Part way down went over the edge and landed on a piece of machinery (planer) and then the concrete floor. No broken bones but knocked myself out.


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The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
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#4469039 - 04/05/19 03:20 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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#4469044 - 04/05/19 03:31 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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#4469069 - 04/05/19 05:01 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Horseshoe Bend in Page, AZ is another place that has multiple deaths because of people getting too close and falling off.

I went there in 2015 for a sunrise seeing we missed the sunset the night before. I had a nightmare the night before that I fell off, literally freaked me for the rest of our trip. So when we got there in the morning and saw people standing on the edge I had the hardest time just looking at them. I had to crawl just to get this shot.


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This place has 2-3 deaths per year. When we pulled in, a large tourist bus of Asian people climbed off and were standing on the edge with their back do it getting their selfies...
Deaths at the Grand Canyon.


Last year we hit the Grand Canyon, weather was misting so the ground was wet. You think that stopped people from getting right on the edge for their picture. As a photographer I've put myself in some spots that probably weren't the brightest, but even I have my limits.

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#4469075 - 04/05/19 05:23 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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That pic of the Grand Canyon is stunning and can be labelled "beautiful yet deadly". smile


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#4469076 - 04/05/19 05:26 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Thanks for photos Top Gun nice shots. I'm afraid of heights ..... like Panzer, 10 ft is as close i wish to get to a drop-off. If a trail is too close to an edge i start to freak out


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#4469091 - 04/05/19 06:25 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Great photos. cheers

Wouldn't catch me doing this trail, https://feel-planet.com/the-most-dangerous-hiking-trail-china/

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#4469094 - 04/05/19 06:39 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK




NO....mother.....frakking....way. You couldn't pay me enough to do that trail.


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#4469098 - 04/05/19 06:46 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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#4469134 - 04/06/19 01:07 AM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Anyone been on this?

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It only juts out 70 ft and is 4000 ft above the canyon floor.

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There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
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#4469160 - 04/06/19 05:38 AM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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No, no and hell no eek


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Text from a letter to the editor I read in the Manchester (NH) Union-Leader a couple years ago. The page no longer exists or I’d provide the link as proof, because it sounds like a joke.

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To the Editor: My husband and I were hiking the Mount Jackson trail on May 27 with my son and family. We are veteran backpackers with 40 years of hiking experience. The trails in the White Mountains are a disgrace.

You have to negotiate boulders and, basically, hike rocky stream beds to gain the most meager vistas and distance. These trails are dangerous and limit safe use to only athletes. All hiking trails anywhere have potential hazards for the unprepared. But the Mount Jackson trail raises those hazards to unacceptable levels. The boulders should be reduced to proper steps and the last section should have hand holds for safety. Trail maintenance should be a state priority so that more residents of New Hampshire can enjoy the beautiful mountains without risking serious injury.


She’s right about the boulders and rocks, here’s a trip report (with pics) I wrote last year. This trail was more rocky than most, but very few trails are smooth up here.

Glen Boulder Trail, 16 June 2018.

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#4469190 - 04/06/19 01:29 PM Re: Grand Canyon: Three Tourist Deaths in 8 Days [Re: Haggart]  
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Originally Posted by Haggart
No, no and hell no eek


HAHAHAHA! Agreed Haggart. For me the line would be, " Oh Hell No, you couldn't drag me out there with a full grown elephant! cuss

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