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#4467631 - 03/26/19 09:45 PM Force Feedback new or old joystick?  
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Hi,
i still have an old but working MS Sidewinder FFB 2, which works well in Rise of Flight or WOFF, on a Win 10 64 bit PC.

But it does not work properly with MS Flight simulator 2004 and X, and not in the old IL 2. Or better it woks, but the resisting force is much too strong (motors working at 100 percent in all directions or so it feels), and FFB does not work at all in those sims mentioned. I cannot adjust it via Win 10 driver (no force control window), and not from within the sims.

So, I would like to play IL 2 (the old original one) in Windows 10, with the old MS Sidewinder FFB 2 USB stick.
I can install IL2 with all its bells, whistles, updates and patches, it works.
The MS FFB stick is recognized alright in Windows 10 pro, i can use all buttons, views, movements, twist and so on.
But FFB is not working. I can use the stick, but the force is too strong with this one, it is as if you push against a kilogram in all directions, and i have no means to get either FFB working, not can i reduce the force itself to less resistance. The automatic driver in Win 10 does not allow to adjust ffb or decrease the resistance forces.
Trying to adjust it from within IL2 does not work either. Same with MS Flight simulator X b.t.w. in WIn 10. Too strong resistance to use it.

Is there any solution for this. I know of no ffb stick being produced, and i think the FFB 2 is still really a very good one - so is there any driver, idea or workaround to get the stick adjusted, or even the ffb working in IL2 under Win 10?

Or, alternatively, is there a new good Force feedback stick on the market that works well, adjustment and all, with Win 10 64 bit?

Thank you very much,
Catfish


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#4467649 - 03/26/19 10:55 PM Re: Force Feedback new or old joystick? [Re: Catfish]  
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Or, alternatively, is there a new good Force feedback stick on the market that works well, adjustment and all, with Win 10 64 bit?


From traditional brands, the last FFB attempt was the (failed) discontinued Logitech G-940. BTW - Logitech (patented) FFB implementation is not the same used by Microsoft, is less "sophisticated".

Are some "boutique" models like this.

https://www.brunner-innovation.swiss/produkt/cls-e-joystick/?lang=de

Has plug-in for FSX, but not for IL-2.

A possible support for DCS is to be developed:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3859991&postcount=55

Meanwhile try reducing forces with ForceEdit.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2465743&postcount=2
https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10090


#4468023 - 03/29/19 10:07 AM Re: Force Feedback new or old joystick? [Re: Catfish]  
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For FSX, P3D, etc you can try http://www.fs-force.com/ it has a demo and it really brings some force-feedback realism (trim, etc) to the MSFS family.

#4468544 - 04/02/19 09:38 AM Re: Force Feedback new or old joystick? [Re: Catfish]  
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Hello,
well the "boutique" solution is a bit expensive for me, but i'll try out the Force edit and fs-force programs. Would be nice if it works for FS X and the old IL2. The resistance right now makes them both unplayable. Anyone knows how the Sidewinder FFB2 does in the new IL2s like CoD or BoS?
Thanks! will try it out and report -


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