#4464117 - 03/05/19 08:27 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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i've not seen a single episode .... dont intend to start with the last season :P
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#4464119 - 03/05/19 08:35 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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Can't wait to watch this, wife and I were late to the party. Kept telling myself I had no interest, finally gave in and watched a few and that's all it took.
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#4464121 - 03/05/19 08:42 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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I'm kinda sad to see it go.
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#4464123 - 03/05/19 08:55 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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i've not seen a single episode .... dont intend to start with the last season :P
Same. Don`t have HBO, we get Showtime.
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#4464129 - 03/05/19 09:04 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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I was convinced I wouldn't enjoy this series as I don't really like fantasy type settings. After 1 episode I binge watched the lot.
Another one here rooting for Arya and Needle.
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#4464139 - 03/05/19 10:16 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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I'm kinda sad to see it go. TBH, while I'm looking forward to the new season, the last two dropped markedly in quality. The first times we saw plot armor in action in that series, which I found going against everything that G.R.R. Martin stands for, from the point of dramaturgy. You don't want your hero to die? Don't get him into a situation where death is pretty much guaranteed. You're the writer, you're in control of that.Fake tension belongs to lesser productions. If someone wearing considerable armor falls into a deep river, there's just no way how he'll get back to the surface, period. If you fall into the water in arctic sub-zero temperatures, possibly magically amplified due to, well, blue-skinned frost zombies, you're dead within ten to thirty minutes. You can be awesome as much as you want, hypothermia will get everybody. You're surrounded by a pack of hungry monster wolves? They will rip you apart, period. You run into a totally obvious trap during a certain battle of bastards? YOU WILL DIE, and you deserve no better fate. All that from the last season. Seriously, you had five seasons to learn from the best screenwriter of our times, and the moment you go beyond his writings, the wheels are coming off? That clearly shows who is a master of this art, and who doesn't understand the fundamental principles of the source material he's working with. ONE miraculous survival I could live with in a Game of Thrones season (ideally however just once or less in the whole series). But four just in the last season alone? If that's setting the standard for the last season, ending the series will be for the better.
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#4464143 - 03/05/19 10:30 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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We know that (some) knights practised swimming in white harness, as well as scaling ladders from the underside and other seemingly unlikely feats. Many of these have been replicated (although acknowledged as ridiculously hard) by modern experimental archaeology.
Now I would drown if I fell in river in any kind of clothing - but that is no reason to deny the possibility if we know they are dedicated to physical training in harness, including such feats of arms.
Hypothermia is a killer though, and there are many other places where plot armour or 'magik' saves people when it makes no sense for the HBO-ised story, and a few in the books too.
Much of what is in the books is more or less tightly based on British history from around the Wars of the Roses, with some flavoursome tidbits from earlier periods and other places in Europe if they were spicy enough. Some of the 'unlikely' occurrences sans-magic come from this palette of 'history with possible exaggeration'**. Of course dragons, white walkers, decades long winters and magic don't fall into these themes and are a source for some of the stuff which makes no sense (such as a ridiculous 700ft ice wall ~ when a 70ft or a 14ft one would have been more practical and just as effective with it's 'magic ward' to defend against the dead, and effective enough to work against the wildlings.
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#4464166 - 03/06/19 12:11 AM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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..so i googled "white harness" to get an idea of what you were talking about .. no wonder they could swim just fine!! and climbing a ladder and swimming with about 60lbs of weight attached all over your body are totally separate things, it doesn't matter if the weight is metal or sand, as a suit or in a backpack, your going to the bottom with that amount on you.
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#4464176 - 03/06/19 01:25 AM
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We know that (some) knights practised swimming in white harness, ... and other seemingly unlikely feats. Many of these have been replicated (although acknowledged as ridiculously hard) by modern experimental archaeology. Well, in this case it involved a one-handed guy with a bronze replica hand, wearing a hardened leather cuirass with metal applique, still wearing sword, and heavy boots. The guy pulling him out of the water is wearing a long leather coat, heavy boots, leather trousers. And not only do they not fall into shallow water, we see him unsuccessfully struggling with his armor trying to get it off as he's continuously sinking deeper and deeper, and then they get out of the water a few hundred meters away from where they fell into it. I'm sorry to say it, but your example fails to convince me that it is applicable to this scene. If both had come up without all the heavy garment and boots I would be willing to overlook the long distance from the attack site as a means to have the dialog undisturbed from other people, flailing their arms while on fire and the associated screaming that tends to ruin the quiet moment that the two are having. As it was, they created a cheap cliffhanger at the end of one episode, and an entirely implausible resolution in the next one. And even that I might be forgiving if this wasn't supposed to be Game of Thrones, where the rule established in about 64 previous episodes was that if your character gets into an unwinnable situation, well, he will lose. You don't want him to lose, be more careful when writing up his confrontation. Like, don't try to backstab a flying dragon with a ballista, which already was over the top silly in The Gamers - and that was a a role-playing fan-film parody. "It's Fantasy" is no defense, because of the established dramaturgical principles of the previous six and a half seasons. You don't create a massive hit based on such core tenets in storytelling, and then do a 180° and expect me to accept it at face value. If you don't know the full story (and at this point, only those involved with the production do), and you're watching this for the first time, part of the excitement is that you have a number of worthy characters, and neither the best nor the most relatable characters were, up to this point, guaranteed to make it to the end of the story. I will concede that as the story is drawing to a close, the herd of characters has been thinned so much by now that it's beginning to show who will most likely be among the survivors at the end. Nevertheless, these four incidents were massive spoilers, and unprovoked storytelling mistakes.
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#4464314 - 03/06/19 09:43 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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My prediction: Arya kills Cersei in the shape of her brother. I like that!! I could see it happening. A long delayed revenge for the death of her father.
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#4464317 - 03/06/19 10:10 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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My prediction: Arya kills Cersei in the shape of her brother. I like that!! I could see it happening. A long delayed revenge for the death of her father. That would indeed be great, but I actually think it will be Jaime himself who finally finishes her off. Or maybe she will become a blue-eyed ice queen Hoping for Clegane vs Clegane as well!
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#4464321 - 03/06/19 10:36 PM
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My prediction: Arya kills Cersei in the shape of her brother. Okay, I'll put in with this lot! As long as Arya is kicking it, I'm in!
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#4464324 - 03/06/19 10:41 PM
Re: Game of Thrones fans
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By the way, I know I might be in for a disappointment if Arya dies because it won't be the first time I got mad in GoT . . . #Red Wedding
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