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#4462190 - 02/20/19 06:29 PM Questions From A Newbie  
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First let me apologize for not know what area to post to first so I have started a new topic.

Greetings from a US Marine Veteran but a novice gamer, 80 years old. I am a WWII buff so I thought I would start with that era.

I am looking to purchase a WWII Flight Combat Simulator for my PC. My doctor has suggested that computer games can help me with hand eye coordination and sharpen my reaction skills. My PC as follows:

• Intel Xtreme I9, 6 dual 347 GHZ Processors 12 individual
• Windows 7 Pro, 64 bit, SP1
• 12 GB Memory
• ATI FirePro V5800 graphics card
• 2 solid state disks
• 2 Dell 27" Monitors DVI attached, resolution, 2560x1440, Dell-U2700
• 12 USB 2.0 ports

Would you kindly recommend a couple of good choices of WWII combat flight simulators that I can run on my configuration. To start I would be a single player and see how that goes.

So far I have been MS Combat Flight Simulator 2 and Ubisoft IL 2 Sturmovic for simulators and the Logitech G Pro Flight X56 Rhino HOTAS for the controller. The controller does not come with pedals but they can be added. Do I need the pedals to start?

Also is there a good book on air to air combat book, manual, or download that would help me learn air to air tactics?

Regards, Henry (AKA Otrman)

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#4462192 - 02/20/19 06:39 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Welcome aboard otrman!

I highly recommend:

IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad which you can either get on Steam or you can buy it direct from the publisher website.

IL-2 1946 which includes over 100+ flyable aircraft and it includes a Pacific map as well as US and Japanese flyable planes.



Your hardware set up looks pretty darn good so you can run pretty much any flight sim with no issues.


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#4462193 - 02/20/19 06:50 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Originally Posted by otrman
The controller does not come with pedals but they can be added. Do I need the pedals to start?


ruddel pedals are not essential at all if you have a "twisty" stick (which becomes the rudder access) and you certainly dont need them to start, so you can start withouth them and then if you really get into flight sims you can buy a set smile


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#4462194 - 02/20/19 06:51 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Semper Fi Ortman PanzerMeyer is on the spot abut the best sims I fly CFS 2 along with those here is a good site for IL-2 With something called the BAT mod It mods IL-2 1946 do you can fly from WW I to modern Jets and they have a new members safety area where ou can post and not get your beans busted https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php

and here for Stalingrad https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/1-il-2-sturmovik-great-battles/


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#4462196 - 02/20/19 06:59 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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start with Il-2

https://il2sturmovik.com/

all 4 titles are worth buying and you get a huge number of WWII fighters to fly

#4462197 - 02/20/19 07:01 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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European Air War is a good start place. It isn’t too difficult a learning curve. It is where many of us started and is still one of the favorites.

You can find the forum down a good ways from Community Hall.

http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/85/1/european-air-war


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#4462202 - 02/20/19 07:31 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Thank you all for your replies. Does the controller, Logitech G Pro Flight X56 Rhino HOTAS, I am thinking of go well with my simulator choices? Is it difficult to setup?

#4462208 - 02/20/19 08:18 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Don't forget 'Cliffs of Dover' as modded by Team Fusion. Beginners guide here:

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5058&p=52711

and 'Wings Over The Reich' - which offers very good offline play:

http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.p...r-the-reich-feature-overview#Post4438138


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#4462218 - 02/20/19 09:27 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Originally Posted by otrman
Thank you all for your replies. Does the controller, Logitech G Pro Flight X56 Rhino HOTAS, I am thinking of go well with my simulator choices? Is it difficult to setup?


It does indeed. It will cover most of your needs and then some. It is generally not difficult, most functions can be mapped as desired within the game itself.


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#4462220 - 02/20/19 09:51 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: RedToo]  
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Originally Posted by RedToo
Don't forget 'Cliffs of Dover' as modded by Team Fusion.

Isn't that included in the current Cliffs of Dover Blitz that is for sale on Steam?

#4462230 - 02/20/19 10:55 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: Vaderini]  
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Valderini..Yes one good thing about Steam it keeps your games up to date


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#4462339 - 02/21/19 05:40 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: rwatson]  
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Can I just buy stuff from them. The way I read it, they want me to subscribe to some cloud based service.

Other than my knowledge of Physics I do not understand Steam.

#4462340 - 02/21/19 05:47 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Originally Posted by otrman
Can I just buy stuff from them. The way I read it, they want me to subscribe to some cloud based service.

Other than my knowledge of Physics I do not understand Steam.







Neither IL-2 Stalingrad nor IL-2 1946 require Steam so yes, you can just buy direct from the publisher.

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#4462354 - 02/21/19 06:26 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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I avoided Steam for years,,finally broke down and got Shogun 2 And found out I liked it,,They have your games there and if you need to reinstall something just click and it installs and updates it whenever you run the game.
I bought bought The Battles of Stalingrad,,Moscow Kuban on sale for about $ 52 for all three earlier this month..I have a few other sims through them IL-2 Clifs of Dover and it installs the Team fusion patches automatically ..I've grown to accept it and good old Games for a few games and don't have to go hunting for the cd's..
I can understand some people would be suspicious..I was but now I find it convenient Either way They are great sims either through the Publisher or Steam


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#4462390 - 02/21/19 11:13 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Originally Posted by otrman
Can I just buy stuff from them. The way I read it, they want me to subscribe to some cloud based service.

Other than my knowledge of Physics I do not understand Steam.



Steam's odd in my opinion. So is GOG (good old games). But it turned out they work much differently than I thought they would. And better. I am old school. I want it, I buy it, I want to have "it". A physical thing. It's mine. But I tried out both Steam and GOG and while I would prefer a different way, both Steam and GOG are painless.

It's not like a pay-as-you-play subscription. Using Steam as the example, there's no upkeep fees and if you don't shell out X dollars each month, they turn off Steam. It's a hosting service more than a subscription. It even has several benefits for users in addition to convenience.

I recommend Il2: 1946



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#4462393 - 02/21/19 11:30 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Steam = DRM.
GOG = No DRM.

Class dismissed. biggrin

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Welcome, otrman. If fate is kind and I make it to 80 (currently 51), I hope to have the same level of interest in flight simming that you (and some others here) seem to have. cheers



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#4462396 - 02/21/19 11:46 PM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Oddly the nature of Steam and GOG makes it much easier for me to tolerate DRM as an evil to be put up with if certain things are engaged in, although I contend DRM does nothing to prevent theft overall and is instead a way to make customers abandon old entertainment software in favor of new, accessible ones as a way to parley sales.


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#4462406 - 02/22/19 12:44 AM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: 462cid]  
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If I read your reply correctly, if I find a game I want I would pay their price but not get a physical package or a download of the game, but get the privilege just using the game located in Steam's site when ever I sign on to Steam and request to play the game I paid for it.

Am I correct?

Henry

#4462407 - 02/22/19 12:49 AM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Well, you don't ask their permission, you select it from your library, but essentially yes although there are files local to your PC. Unfortunately that's the service we're seeing more often.

You can however play those same titles offline, but it is still through the Steam launcher.


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#4462410 - 02/22/19 01:18 AM Re: Questions From A Newbie [Re: otrman]  
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Buy The game and like 462cid said it's in your library and you just click on it,,You can also set a short cut to the game on your desktop and it loads it and steam up and launches it no worries at all..I have 21 games there ,,Only have 6 installed and playing,right now ,When I want to reinstall one of my other games I open steam go to my library games and the uninstalled game is there in light gray..I click on it and get a window and click install and steam installs it and patches it up to date..If I uninstall one through steam it uninstalls but keeps it in my library..I do that sometimes if I run low on disk space,,,A lot better than having something installed and a reinstall is done with a cd
Like I said one time I was against steam but now I think it works well and I will buy games from steam in the future


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