#4461310 - 02/14/19 11:18 AM
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Airbus Terminating A380 Program in 2021Airbus announced Feb. 14 that it is terminating the A380 program.
Emirates announced it will only take 14 more A380s instead of the 53 it had on firm order so far. The order is revised and now includes 40 A330-900s and 30 A350-900s according to a new heads of agreement.
“As a result of this decision we have no substantial A380 backlog and hence no basis to sustain production, despite all our sales efforts with other airlines in recent years. This leads to the end of A380 deliveries in 2021,” said Airbus Chief Executive Officer Tom Enders. “The consequences of this decision are largely embedded in our 2018 full year results”.
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#4461325 - 02/14/19 01:45 PM
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Dreamliner wins, I guess...
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#4461363 - 02/14/19 04:32 PM
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Boeing made the right call. They made thr plane rhat thr airlines need vs. What the airlike maker think they need.,
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#4461436 - 02/15/19 12:12 AM
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Boeing made the right call. They made thr plane rhat thr airlines need vs. What the airlike maker think they need., Yep, and that's why they built the 747. Juan Trippe of Pan AM wanted it. Wheels
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#4461452 - 02/15/19 01:04 AM
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Well, not really. The Airbus competitor to the 787 is the A350, not the A380.
Building the A380 made Airbus take their eye off the ball and spend billions on A380 that could have gone toward A350.
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#4461475 - 02/15/19 06:05 AM
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Didn't the A380 require significant upgrades tp airports to accommodate the a/c?
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#4461477 - 02/15/19 07:32 AM
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Didn't the A380 require significant upgrades tp airports to accommodate the a/c? Indeed. On any airport, many taxiways are not allowed to the A380 (300 sold). 747-800 (100 sold,+ 50 747-800F freighters !!) has the same restrictions, and 777 (1500 sold !!!!) has some too. Where A380 and 747-800 are the worst is for parking, the width means they need special stands, the two decks mean they need 3 jetways for an efficient turn around. But what really killed 380 are regulations. 4 engines made no more sense when twins were allowed to cross pacific ocean in a straight line, being further than 3 hours of the most suitable airport after an engine failure (see ETOPS rules). Coincidentally it happened right when the 380 was introduced. A380 is a great ride for its passengers (except Qantas' I guess ? , at least in europe passengers seem happy ), but its operations costs make it less interesting for airlines accountants than 777 series (now 787 and 350). 787 is on its way to be a success (need to deliver twice as many, but they are already ordered) but 747-800 was a failure, 777 was a big success and 330 was too, A350 maybe, too early to know yet, 787 and 777-X being a threat.
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#4461873 - 02/18/19 03:31 PM
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same experience and a plane full of people including their pets
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#4462488 - 02/22/19 03:28 PM
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How is flying on an A380? Is it worth the experience or is it not much different from any other transatlantic aircraft? Very low noise levels on the upper deck at least. while they may not have done well with the a380, the a350 is an incredible machine and is eating up the sales of not only the a380 but many of boeing's aircraft as well.
the a350 is probably the best airplane in existence at the moment, and i say this as someone who dearly loves the 777 and 787's. boeing has a lot of work to do to catch up to it. their new 737's are a joke and the entire series needs to be scrapped or redesigned from the ground up. boeing keeps stretching them trying to compete with newer boeing and airbus models and it's not working. they're not as efficient, they have horrendously outdated cockpit layouts, less passenger comfort, the systems aboard the aircraft overall while perhaps updated are still hopelessly obsolete.
sad to see the a380 go, but maybe it'll enjoy a new life as a superfreighter some day. The 350 is actually heavier and less efficient than the 787. The 787, though, has been designed with «cattle transport» in mind, and is not as comfortable to fly on. Agree that the 737 design has been stretched too far. The NG should have been the last iteration to fly on the original 1967 FAA type certificate! New LCD screens in the cockpit and slightly less thirsty engines do not make for a good new aircraft. Even so, Boeing has a backlog of I think 5000 of the things!
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